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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:42 pm  
I think we were naive and slightly short-sighted to offer him a 2year dear which in effect was alway's only going to secure his services for another year. Sometimes you have to take a gamble and our board (probably correctly) wasn't ready to make the gamble.

We cannot have our cake and eat it - the modern player is more switched on and has to treat the whole thing like a business deal and that's the way it's going to go.
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:15 pm  
Yawnion is also subject to a salary cap which makes average earnings very similar to SL>

I'm not sure whether signing on fees are subject to the same cap limits but don't think they are.
Obviously Bath are using their sponsorship by McVities to fund this. :wink:
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:27 pm  
I wouldn't panic just yet. If Kyle's agent is hawking his name around then fair play. He's still a saints player and has a decent amount of time to prove his worth to us on the pitch . If we can't afford to keep him then we'll get someone else in, but the days of union throwing silly money at leaguies is long gone IMO.
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Clearly he has never done this in the past and thus has never deserved to be in a final, i suspect that the same scenario will occur tomorrow.

Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:14 pm  
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We should ask him to sign his new deal before mid-season, failing which sit him in the stands thereafter and get Lomax/Gaskell in; getting a bit sick of all this TBH.


Has he not been doing that for the majority of the last 2 years?
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:22 pm  
If he is seriously thinking about it then get shut of him now. I can only use Leeds as an example as I follow them but we have gotten rid of anyone who is not 100% committed hence why McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield are all happy at Leeds. The likes of Chev, Calderwood, and Harris were allowed to leave once they showed their true colours chasing the pound
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:46 pm  
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I wouldn't panic just yet. If Kyle's agent is hawking his name around then fair play. He's still a saints player and has a decent amount of time to prove his worth to us on the pitch . If we can't afford to keep him then we'll get someone else in, but the days of union throwing silly money at leaguies is long gone IMO.


It says that bath are willing to pay him £200,000 a year, now I'd call that silly money.

I'm not to fussed if he stays or if he goes to be honest, its not as bad as when players like longy was linked to wigan, KC being linked to union or scully being lined up by Aussie sides as he's not in the same league as any of them.

I think hes a good player with potential to be a great player but I'd fully back the saints board by not breaking the bank for a injury prone player.

IMO offer him what we think he's worth now, if he don't accept we should transfer list him and look to bring a good ball playing scrumhalf.

In the rugby leaguer it says Leon will 100% be fit for Wigan in Cardiff and Kyle also looks set to play.
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:54 pm  
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It says that bath are willing to pay him £200,000 a year, now I'd call that silly money.

I'm not to fussed if he stays or if he goes to be honest, its not as bad as when players like longy was linked to wigan, KC being linked to union or scully being lined up by Aussie sides as he's not in the same league as any of them.

I think hes a good player with potential to be a great player but I'd fully back the saints board by not breaking the bank for a injury prone player.

IMO offer him what we think he's worth now, if he don't accept we should transfer list him and look to bring a good ball playing scrumhalf.

In the rugby leaguer it says Leon will 100% be fit for Wigan in Cardiff and Kyle also looks set to play.

£200k is worth it for a world class half back, if he can prove he can stay fit. I'm having doubts if he's physically up to Rugby League
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:11 pm  
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£200k is worth it for a world class half back, if he can prove he can stay fit. I'm having doubts if he's physically up to Rugby League


IMO I wouldn't pay Kyle £200,000 a year as I don't think he's anywhere near that level at this moment in time.

The problem saints have, we will need to offer him the contract before midseason and I doubt we will know how good he will be in half a season.

I'd offer him a contract of what any good 21yr old would get.
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:20 pm  
Admittedly coming from an outside POV, but to me it does seem that Eastmond (or at least his agent) has been messing Saints around for the last year or so. As has been said by others I think McManus needs to get Eastmond in to his office and either tell him to shut up and be happy with his deal, or sell him and get as much as possible for him. Then buy someone like Sammut as a replacement.

Eastmond is an incredibly dangerous player, but is he worth breaking the bank over? Is he as vital to Saints as someone like Long or Cunningham was?
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Re: EASTMOND TO UNION : Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:27 pm  
Unfortunately I think Eastmond will pack up and f*ck off asap. I don't think he'll ever be what Sean Long was to Saints in the halves.

He's certainly a talented individual - no doubting that, and it would be a loss to RL and a kick in the teeth when he inevitably plays for England RU at Twickenham and his RL playing history erased with RU claiming to have brought him through.

I'd rather he stay in RL (even if it is for you lot) but regrettably it seems he's content on a move to RU.
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