: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:05 pm  

No1_Saints _Fan wrote:

Maurie needs one good game and he will became the animal he once was. As for Frodsham, he isn't ready yet. Sam Burgess proved that.

Why ? There have been plenty of established players whacked by a big hit over the years. I dont see how it ' proves' anything.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:30 pm  

Harborne Saint wrote:

I wouldn't write him off but he needs to improve discipline and solidity. Our squad's thinness means he needs to be more than just an impact layer

Maybe that is the problem, he is playing as a "normal" prop, getting through graft for longish spells, as opposed to coming on as an impact player for a few minutes, and causing some real damage?

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:33 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Maybe that is the problem, he is playing as a "normal" prop, getting through graft for longish spells, as opposed to coming on as an impact player for a few minutes, and causing some real damage?

I agree. He was bigger, stronger and played less minutes in 2006. That's when Maurie was at his best. We've got Graham, Cayless and Hargreaves who all offer workrate. We need Maurie to play for 25-30 minutes maximum and offer big impact.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:40 pm  

Maurie is purely an impact player and we need him to be destructive like in 2007 for him to be at his best.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:24 pm  

Fa'asavalau didn't have that bad a game on Friday made one high tackle and missed a couple, but that's going off memory. We may have to get used to him not playing as much as an impact prop as he has done previously, the fact that he had 3 or 4 tacklers on him whenever he made a run didn't help, he also played when Warrington were at their best defensively. Hargreaves was a bit of a worry, IIRC he only played the firs 15-20 minutes, was he injured? Potter didn't mention him as such in the post match interview

And those jumping on the 'Burgess showed Frodsham not to be ready' bandwagon, what about the other 6 games he played in SL last year where he made an average of 8 metres per carry?

Do you actually watch the games or just remember the highlights at the end of the tv coverage?

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:52 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Fa'asavalau didn't have that bad a game on Friday made one high tackle and missed a couple, but that's going off memory. We may have to get used to him not playing as much as an impact prop as he has done previously, the fact that he had 3 or 4 tacklers on him whenever he made a run didn't help, he also played when Warrington were at their best defensively. Hargreaves was a bit of a worry, IIRC he only played the firs 15-20 minutes, was he injured? Potter didn't mention him as such in the post match interview

And those jumping on the 'Burgess showed Frodsham not to be ready' bandwagon, what about the other 6 games he played in SL last year where he made an average of 8 metres per carry?

Do you actually watch the games or just remember the highlights at the end of the tv coverage?

Superb post..

The Frodsham / Burgess tackle was about 8 months ago & is getting very boring now
Or shall we all talk about the Vinnie Anderson hit on Danny Tickle
Maurie is attracting 3 defenders every time he gets the ball, cause teams know how dangerous he can be. Maurie is still a beast & every other team in SL would love to have him in thier squad

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:38 pm  

Shawy wrote:

:CLAP: Superb post..

The Frodsham / Burgess tackle was about 8 months ago & is getting very boring now
Or shall we all talk about the Vinnie Anderson hit on Danny Tickle
Maurie is attracting 3 defenders every time he gets the ball, cause teams know how dangerous he can be. Maurie is still a beast & every other team in SL would love to have him in thier squad

I agree I would welcome him at Odsal. He can be very dangerous in attack and occasionally even looks a little Vagana-esque

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:07 am  

I think the reason for his so-called lack of form is two-fold;

One, he's had a series of niggling injuries over the past 2 seasons and it's plain to see it has affected his form and secondly, if players wind him up and get in to his face then the red mist descends and he becomes ineffective.

Give him some time this season as well as a long, unbroken run in the team, and he'll be back to his best.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:28 am  

Like a lot of players in al clubs the first hit out is wht most really need, I hope he will regain his form soon, as alrady stated hes an impact player and we need him.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:31 am  

Maurie might not be pulling up trees, but he's far from a waste of a shirt.
He was playing against one of the best sets of props in the league, don't forget.

I too expect Frodsham to come through and take a shirt of one of the current props, but I don't reckon it'll be Maurie.