Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:54 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

It was his pride and joy. Here he is giving Lomax a ride.

Sorry, but that is definately Rogues.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:23 pm  

Jamie Foster talks about pride playing for the shirt in this interview. Well Done to him. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 433733.stm

Jamie Foster talks about pride playing for the shirt in this interview. Well Done to him. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 433733.stm

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:27 pm  

Not sure how some have reached the view that we can only warn him.

The media are reporting that fans have formally complained about making obscene gestures after the Quins game. In how many other walks of life could you abuse your customers and keep your job?

I can recall two incidents at Saints of reportedly abusive behaviour - one was Millward and one was Paul Davidson (who stuck the V up to the crowd as he was subbed) - both of their Saints careers ended as a result.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:48 pm  

And what about Mike Maclellan's pint throwing incident ???--- how long did he last???

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:55 pm  

stantheman wrote:

And what about Mike Maclellan's pint throwing incident ???--- how long did he last???

Another good example. He was subject to a torrent of abuse before he reacted that way, as was Davidson, so it's hardly mitigation that Kyle can rely on.

Saints have set a clear precedent on the conduct they expect between coaching / playing staff and fans - and Eastmond has acted outside of this by some distance IMO.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:18 pm  

There is such ill feeling now about this lad, even if there was no warning I doubt you could play the guy with adding disruption to the team spirit.

I fail to see why picking him because he has a slightly famous name makes any sense if it knocks the team out of it's stride.

He's a young player and had 4 games as our pivot, he did not shape up now it's someone elses turn regardless of the hulabaloo, that he has managed to stoke up about himself via his agent.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:20 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

Saints have set a clear precedent on the conduct they expect between coaching / playing staff and fans - and Eastmond has acted outside of this by some distance IMO.

That's if he was guilty. I don't remember seeing Kyle making any hand gesture to the fans. Other people think he made a gesture but not a rude one. Still others think he made a rude gesture.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:28 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

That's if he was guilty. I don't remember seeing Kyle making any hand gesture to the fans. Other people think he made a gesture but not a rude one. Still others think he made a rude gesture.

Irrespective of what you or I think we saw, the media are reporting that several fans have formally complained of obscene gestures.

Now if the reporting is true (i.e. several independent accounts describing the same incident), I'd say that Saints have the makings of a strong case. The next step, if I were investigating, would be to speak to the players.

If there was any corroboration of the allegation there, I'd have him out the door so fast he'd not have chance to preen himself in the mirror.

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:39 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Perhaps use him AS the bench?

Re: Eastmond suspened by Saints : Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:09 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

That's if he was guilty. I don't remember seeing Kyle making any hand gesture to the fans. Other people think he made a gesture but not a rude one. Still others think he made a rude gesture.

This is my issue with the whole situation - I'm not sure random agenda driven eyewitness reports should see someone sacked. There are just as many people stating they he just pointed at the crowd over his shoulder.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see the back of him, but I'm not sure that a flimsy witch hunt is the way to go. Then again, there could be more to the story than the alleged gestures; I don't know.