Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:57 am  

Saddened! wrote: Seems I was right about the real reasons for the cap increase. Wigan sign NRL player sacked for defecating in hotel Give over, they'll be paying that guy in washers.

Saddened! wrote: Seems I was right about the real reasons for the cap increase. Wigan sign NRL player sacked for defecating in hotel Give over, they'll be paying that guy in washers.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:57 am  

Saddened! wrote: Seems I was right about the real reasons for the cap increase. Wigan sign NRL player sacked for defecating in hotel Well, I guess he's about the level of class for Wigan anyway! No surprise that they are recruiting an antipodean. For all that Rogues boasts about their u20s team winning grand finals, they clearly can't produce a centre.

Saddened! wrote: Seems I was right about the real reasons for the cap increase. Wigan sign NRL player sacked for defecating in hotel Well, I guess he's about the level of class for Wigan anyway! No surprise that they are recruiting an antipodean. For all that Rogues boasts about their u20s team winning grand finals, they clearly can't produce a centre.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:57 am  

SP, he's easier to read than a Janet & John book.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:19 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Well, I guess he's about the level of class for Wigan anyway!

No surprise that they are recruiting an antipodean. For all that Rogues boasts about their u20s team winning grand finals, they clearly can't produce a centre.

As you obviously "follow" my posts you will know that I have been bemoaning the lack of decent centres in our game for a while. I know Wigan have been looking for ages to try and find one or two. I have never thought that Goulding or Marsh were the answers in that position although they can do a decent job. (Both will get their chance to see if they are up to it this coming season, but I expect it to be their last)

England for instance have had to go overseas to fill one of those positions (Jack Reed). George Carmont at 33 again made the dream team this year.

It's a position we have struggled with since Senior and Gleeson moved on.

Who was the last decent centre Saints produced?
It's an English RL problem position.

Regarding Gelling, he was a 19 year old lad who made a stupid mistake, and rightly paid for it by being sacked. I wonder why Saints didn't do it with Long? (you have read his book I presume)

If Wire can sign the dog molester then I'm sure a bit of cr@p can be forgiven
Gelling may turn out to be another Kevin Iro ,
or then again he may be a Paul Koloi

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:34 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

As you obviously "follow" my posts you will know that I have been bemoaning the lack of decent centres in our game for a while. I know Wigan have been looking for ages to try and find one or two. I have never thought that Goulding or Marsh were the answers in that position although they can do a decent job. (Both will get their chance to see if they are up to it this coming season, but I expect it to be their last)

England for instance have had to go overseas to fill one of those positions (Jack Reed). George Carmont at 33 again made the dream team this year.

It's a position we have struggled with since Senior and Gleeson moved on.

Who was the last decent centre Saints produced?
It's an English RL problem position.

Regarding Gelling, he was a 19 year old lad who made a stupid mistake, and rightly paid for it by being sacked. I wonder why Saints didn't do it with Long? (you have read his book I presume)

If Wire can sign the dog molester then I'm sure a bit of cr@p can be forgiven
Gelling may turn out to be another Kevin Iro ,
or then again he may be a Paul Koloi

From reading the NZ Warriors forums it seems he is not a viable option as a centre but will end up as a second row forward?

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:13 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

As you obviously "follow" my posts you will know that I have been bemoaning the lack of decent centres in our game for a while. I know Wigan have been looking for ages to try and find one or two. I have never thought that Goulding or Marsh were the answers in that position although they can do a decent job. (Both will get their chance to see if they are up to it this coming season, but I expect it to be their last)

England for instance have had to go overseas to fill one of those positions (Jack Reed). George Carmont at 33 again made the dream team this year.

It's a position we have struggled with since Senior and Gleeson moved on.

Who was the last decent centre Saints produced?
It's an English RL problem position.

Regarding Gelling, he was a 19 year old lad who made a stupid mistake, and rightly paid for it by being sacked. I wonder why Saints didn't do it with Long? (you have read his book I presume)

If Wire can sign the dog molester then I'm sure a bit of cr@p can be forgiven
Gelling may turn out to be another Kevin Iro ,
or then again he may be a Paul Koloi

I'm pretty sure I remeber you suggesting Goulding should make the England squad last year, since he was reliable and could cover centre and wing. Dissapointed Charnely isn't going to get the gig in the centre.
When he plays, Wheeler is a cracking centre, we also have Tommy Mak who looks very promising. Before that? Loughlin, Hunte, Connolly?

The incident is nothing to worry about, worse things happen at sea. However, the fact he was released over it suggests he's not the next kevin iro, though.

I'd suggest we've got a better crop now than the last decade. Whilst their not Newlove and Connoly, we have the likes of Yeaman, Shenton, Atkins, Bridge and promising youngsters like Rhys Evans, Tommy Makinson, the young lad at leeds who's name I can't think of and Joe Arundle. A few years back, I bet 75% of 1st choice SL centres were foriegn, I'd suggest its a lot better now.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:46 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I'm pretty sure I remeber you suggesting Goulding should make the England squad last year, since he was reliable and could cover centre and wing. Dissapointed Charnely isn't going to get the gig in the centre.
When he plays, Wheeler is a cracking centre, we also have Tommy Mak who looks very promising. Before that? Loughlin, Hunte, Connolly?

The incident is nothing to worry about, worse things happen at sea. However, the fact he was released over it suggests he's not the next kevin iro, though.

I'd suggest we've got a better crop now than the last decade. Whilst their not Newlove and Connoly, we have the likes of Yeaman, Shenton, Atkins, Bridge and promising youngsters like Rhys Evans, Tommy Makinson, the young lad at leeds who's name I can't think of and Joe Arundle. A few years back, I bet 75% of 1st choice SL centres were foriegn, I'd suggest its a lot better now.

I did indeed, but the words were reliable and as cover. I don't think he is good enough as a centre and neither is Marsh although I believe both will be given an opportunity (probably their last) this coming season.
Loughlin, Hunte and Connolly were almost twenty years ago, and in reality only Connolly was top drawer.

In the future I do like the looks of Rhys Evans and Callum Watkins. There's also a very good young prospect at Saints named Mark Percival, but that's a long way away. As I said it's been a problem position in the game for a while. Like you I would Charnley a run there at Wigan (I believe he has just signed a new extended/better deal) which would allow us to give Russell and King a game or two.

Anyway I'll be there on Saturday cheering whoever has the England shirt on.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:20 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Loughlin,

Loughlin's pomp was before my time as a speccy, but I'm led to belive he was the best centre in britain and was subject to numerous bids to sign him by Wigan.
It was tongue in cheek when I mentioned them, given how long ago it was.

Some one on here updated us about some start performances by Percevil last season.

Hopefully, this season, Wheeler will get a decent run of it.
Are there still rumours of him moving to Wigan?

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:38 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Loughlin's pomp was before my time as a speccy, but I'm led to belive he was the best centre in britain and was subject to numerous bids to sign him by Wigan.
It was tongue in cheek when I mentioned them, given how long ago it was.

Some one on here updated us about some start performances by Percevil last season.

Hopefully, this season, Wheeler will get a decent run of it.
Are there still rumours of him moving to Wigan?

Here's what I was told. Wigan tried to sign Wheeler in 2009, ready for the 2010 season. They had offered Carmont a one year deal. Saints offered Carmont a two year deal, which Wigan subsequently matched and he stayed at Wigan. Wheeler also got a very increase on his Saints salary and stayed there.

I haven't heard anything about Wheeler coming to Wigan this off season apart from the message board rumours.

Whilst we're talking about young players to keep a look out for.
George Williams and Ryan Hampshire look to be a potential great half back pairing at Wigan. Both were in the undefeated U16 Wigan side this year and starred in the thrashing of France by England at Odsal.

Stevie Ward at Leeds a 17 year old with loads of ability, can play 6 or 13, and his second row partner Jordan Baldinson.

Savellio and Percival at Saints look outstanding prospects as does Mike Learmonth at Warrington(they stole him from Leeds )

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:46 pm  

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