Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:43 pm  

great result today against very tough opposition.

Hope to god Amor doesnt kop a ban or we're buggered for Leeds

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:43 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

So high shot on saints player = dying swan, it wasn't a high shot etc etc etc

High shot on Wakefield player = he tried to decapitate him! he should be banned! it's the greatest offence in the history of the sport etc etc etc

Like I said, hardly the most unbiased of view points. Well see what comes up.

Got told there were fights in the stands at the end of the game, anyone know anything?

Being very close to both incidents my opinions are Lomax slipped and was injured in collision with Ali. I don't think it was a penalty or that Lomax tried to milk anything. When you slip you aren't in a good position to defend yourself and impact on Alis knees & the floor was heavy. I don't think either did anything wrong & it should have been play on after Lomax treatment.

With Amor it seemed to me he did what a lot of forwards do in this day and age which is to swing a full arm at someone. They usually aim to hit the chest. It looks awful but is used a lot. Amor had red mist I could see it in his face I was that close and misjudged it and walloped him. Amor isn't dirty and is a cracking player. I feel he will utilise the early guilty plea.

Roby spoiled the game. The frustrating thing for both fans is that Saints could have won it without his love in with the whistle. So you get Wakefield fans like myself annoyed and it takes away the focus of Saints effort without 4/5 quality players. Without his poor involvement the focus would be on a great game & a Wakefield team showing their no mugs and a Saints team showing they have great strength in depth. But the big disappointment of poor officiating is what the game could have been. I believe it would have been a 2/4 point margin right until the final seconds & even gone down to a drop goal type game. But it is ruined.

That said I tipped Saints for the title this season and definitely think if you have luck with injuries you'll take it!!

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:48 pm  

Mick Amos 9 WTW wrote:

Being very close to both incidents my opinions are Lomax slipped and was injured in collision with Ali. I don't think it was a penalty or that Lomax tried to milk anything. When you slip you aren't in a good position to defend yourself and impact on Alis knees & the floor was heavy. I don't think either did anything wrong & it should have been play on after Lomax treatment.

With Amor it seemed to me he did what a lot of forwards do in this day and age which is to swing a full arm at someone. They usually aim to hit the chest. It looks awful but is used a lot. Amor had red mist I could see it in his face I was that close and misjudged it and walloped him. Amor isn't dirty and is a cracking player. I feel he will utilise the early guilty plea.

Roby spoiled the game. The frustrating thing for both fans is that Saints could have won it without his love in with the whistle. So you get Wakefield fans like myself annoyed and it takes away the focus of Saints effort without 4/5 quality players. Without his poor involvement the focus would be on a great game & a Wakefield team showing their no mugs and a Saints team showing they have great strength in depth. But the big disappointment of poor officiating is what the game could have been. I believe it would have been a 2/4 point margin right until the final seconds & even gone down to a drop goal type game. But it is ruined.

That said I tipped Saints for the title this season and definitely think if you have luck with injuries you'll take it!!

Did watch the game with binoculars ? You seem to have seen everything pretty clear.

How the hell could you see red mist on Amor? He hasn't even got a face, he's just hair and a beard.

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:52 pm  

Amor was offside when Ryan took the quick tap, Ryan put a big don't argue on Amor and Kyle didn't like it so he had a go back with a swinging arm and caught Ryan high.

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:54 pm  

St pete wrote:

Did watch the game with binoculars ? You seem to have seen everything pretty clear.

How the hell could you see red mist on Amor? He hasn't even got a face, he's just hair and a beard.

Stood directly behind the sticks slightly mid right, approximately 6ft 2" from the pitch . The 2 incidents I described in detail happened right next to that. Where were you stood? What's your thoughts on the game?

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:05 pm  

Mick Amos 9 WTW wrote:

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The reality is none of us can predict what the disciplinary will and won't pick up. For me, as you said Amor is not a dirty player, and I don't believe it'll get picked up ... Mistimed maybe, but hardly the worst we've seen this year (which hasn't even been penalised!) - Nfa for both Ali and Amor for me (but hey what do I know )

I agree, saints were without 6-7 first teamers today, and instead Wakefield fans are focussing on "amors deliberate attempt to take a player out" which is definitely feels like it's leaning toward the melodramatic. A poor refereeing standard is part of today's game, but shouldn't excuse either teams performances.

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:11 pm  

Just got home.

Wakefield fans on here worse than Agar. Was listening to BBC Leeds and agar was moaning at the ref.

Great victory considering who we had out. Thought the young lads did well off the bench and Masoe had his best game. Big mins last week must have done him a lot of good.

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:19 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

The reality is none of us can predict what the disciplinary will and won't pick up. For me, as you said Amor is not a dirty player, and I don't believe it'll get picked up ... Mistimed maybe, but hardly the worst we've seen this year (which hasn't even been penalised!) - Nfa for both Ali and Amor for me (but hey what do I know )

I agree, saints were without 6-7 first teamers today, and instead Wakefield fans are focussing on "amors deliberate attempt to take a player out" which is definitely feels like it's leaning toward the melodramatic. A poor refereeing standard is part of today's game, but shouldn't excuse either teams performances.

Some are yes but a sin bin or sending off at that stage wouldn't have changed anything at that time. Watching it back will be interesting. The previous poster stating was I with binoculars. I was one of the closest fans to this incident. Amor did have a red mist type face but more to put a big hefty aggressive shot. It's for the video to see if it was high. Everyone mistimes or do out of character things. It could have just looked worse as they can do. Saints will know once they've viewed it back to see whether their confident of no further action or use the early guilty plea! Just a shame if its the latter it's against Leeds!!!

As far as refs its just frustrating because it can spoil a good game. Today I thought he spoiled it and when we played Catalans and won I thought we picked up more than our deserved penalty count. Like I say though, Saints are a quality outfit!!

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:22 pm  

Have a look at their forum. It's amusing to see all their excuses.

They just didn't turn up second half.

Re: 19 man squad for Wakefield : Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:27 pm  

Mick Amos 9 WTW wrote:

Some are yes but a sin bin or sending off at that stage wouldn't have changed anything at that time. Watching it back will be interesting. The previous poster stating was I with binoculars. I was one of the closest fans to this incident. Amor did have a red mist type face but more to put a big hefty aggressive shot. It's for the video to see if it was high. Everyone mistimes or do out of character things. It could have just looked worse as they can do. Saints will know once they've viewed it back to see whether their confident of no further action or use the early guilty plea! Just a shame if its the latter it's against Leeds!!!

As far as refs its just frustrating because it can spoil a good game. Today I thought he spoiled it and when we played Catalans and won I thought we picked up more than our deserved penalty count. Like I say though, Saints are a quality outfit!!

It simply wasn't a sending off offence. Neither was ali's or any other high shot in the game. The mistake was penalised, no injury occurred, and it's not worth the current outcry from some Wakefield fans. (Cue another 100 threads of how corrupt the rfl are when Nfa is announced) - if I didn't know better I would call it straw clutching that wouldn't of got a second mention had Wakefield won.

That's the thing. There are some poor refereeing displays all round, sometimes you get the rub of the green, sometimes you don't. Roby had a dire game when he reffed us last and gave everything against us - it all evens out over the course of a season.