Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:04 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Might he be under doctor's orders to take it easy? I know from a medic friend that hamstring injuries can be very difficult to resolve.

I mentioned that I thought he looked lethargic during the WIgan game. Someone said he'd been very ill that week and was only 50/50 to play. If he is struggling for fitness because of this, the heat on France won't have been pleasant. He still contributed well tonight, though.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:11 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Whilst a scrum cap will protect against bumps and scratches, it does next to nothing in situations like that. Its only a few mms of padded cloth.

A bike helmet is only polystyrene and a bit of mms of plastic.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:31 pm  

Albion wrote:

Agreed. He always seems to take his time playing the ball after being tackled and isn't as involved as he was in the Wire game earlier in the season, for example.

London up next. We could rest him and give him two weeks off before the warrington game if he is struggling.

I thought he had a good game. In fact they all did apart from TP who looked very lethargic.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:48 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

I thought he had a good game. In fact they all did apart from TP who looked very lethargic.

I'm not saying he didn't have a good game, I just don't think he was as involved as he was in wins like at Warrington.

TP has looked lethargic all season. I'm surprised he's off to Salford with a two year deal!

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:25 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

A bike helmet is only polystyrene and a bit of mms of plastic.

????

The two are very different.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:58 am  

I was thinking scrum cap too. Not to excuse the highshots, but Lomax wears one due to a previous serious injury. GOB does not need to prove how tough he is, we can all see that, but he does need to be wary of the shots he's taking, whether 'legal' or not!!!

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:48 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Whilst a scrum cap will protect against bumps and scratches, it does next to nothing in situations like that. Its only a few mms of padded cloth.

Surely it must offer more protection than that given that Lomax is playing? I mean surely you wouldn't play such a high contact sport with three plates in your head if your head protection only protected you from bumps and scratches? I know his is specially made mind so perhaps the run of the mill head gear is different?

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:25 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Surely it must offer more protection than that given that Lomax is playing? I mean surely you wouldn't play such a high contact sport with three plates in your head if your head protection only protected you from bumps and scratches? I know his is specially made mind so perhaps the run of the mill head gear is different?

It's better than nothing, but if you get an impact that's oing to knock you out, a scrum cap isn't going to stop it. That's from my personal experience, anyway.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:09 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Surely it must offer more protection than that given that Lomax is playing? I mean surely you wouldn't play such a high contact sport with three plates in your head if your head protection only protected you from bumps and scratches? I know his is specially made mind so perhaps the run of the mill head gear is different?

I think a lot of the damage in those tackle situations is the head flying back in whiplash way and if they are out cold like he was, the is also the impact of the head hitting the floor.

O'brian needs to bring that arm up when releasing the ball. It's something I learned at the age of 12 and surely this season has been enough for him to bring that arm up.

Re: Catalans Match Thread - Saints 26 v 6 Catalans : Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:45 am  

St pete wrote:

O'brian needs to bring that arm up when releasing the ball. It's something I learned at the age of 12 and surely this season has been enough for him to bring that arm up.

I think that part of his game needs addressing and its something that a boxer will learn very quickly. He probably also needs to build up his neck and shoulder muscles to reduce the effects of impact.
What we have to remember he is still a young kid, very green against the enforcer type of player, maybe some Saints players can offer him more protection that what he has at the moment, LMS as his minder perhaps.