Re: Leeds Rhinos v St Helens match thread : Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:08 pm  

Poyser11 wrote:

Would that try saving tackle on Ryan Hall not be included as an example of what he still has to offer? And then compare him under the high ball to how Amos Roberts was on Friday!

What has any of that got to do with what I posted? I think he's starting to show weaknesses defensively, but he has been for a while, but his reading of the game has covered most of that. Defensively he's probably still the best in the league at full back, offensively, amonget the worst.

And for someone that's meant to be so slow, he always seems to be keeping up with breaks to offer support to the player with ball in hand.

With such a fantastic supporting game I expect he's near the top of the try charts then? Oh, no he isn't. The ball too often dies in his hands, which is the problem.

Re: Leeds Rhinos v St Helens match thread : Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:15 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Brent Webb is fast, but I wouldn't swap Wello for 2 Webbs.

And did I say I would?

Wellens offered enough to score a clinching try and save several others last night, added to being faultless under some good kicks. He was magnificent IMO.

He scored a typical back rowers try, 5 yards out through a big gap, hardly sterling full back play. He had a good game last night, I'm not saying he didn't, but his kick returns have been a major reason for three GF losses against Leeds (and I'm not saying I think he was solely at fault), and they are getting worse.

Pace isn't everything. Amos Roberts has pace but did his best to give the game to Hudds on Fri, same with Webb. Wellens is a cracking full back and gets more stick than he deserves.

It isn't, but it's a major asset in the position and you'll never be a truly great full back without it. Wellens reading of the game has been exceptional and covered many deficiencies in his game, it's something Webb (as you brought him up) doesn't have, but the game has changed and being a purely defensive full back gives the team major limitations.

Re: Leeds Rhinos v St Helens match thread : Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:16 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:roll:

One of your more reasoned responses.