Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:23 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Just read on the Wire forum that Briers is out and Harrison. (don't know if it is true or not) if it is then i would expect Wigan to win.

And guess what?

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:29 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

And guess what?

They did.

Still in one way I'm happy that wire have lost their hold on the cup.
Now it is up to us to get there.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:37 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

They did.

Still in one way I'm happy that wire have lost their hold on the cup.
Now it is up to us to get there.

I am never happy when Wigan win anything!

However, Wire were very poor in defence and they clearly missed Briers and Morley. God knows how they would have coped if they'd had our injury crisis!

We need to ensure that our defence is Danielandersonesque from now on in because if we can absorb what Wigan throw in the first 20 minutes or so then we have as good a chance of beating Wigan as we have of anything else.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:40 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I am never happy when Wigan win anything!

However, Wire were very poor in defence and they clearly missed Briers and Morley. God knows how they would have coped if they'd had our injury crisis!

We need to ensure that our defence is Danielandersonesque from now on in because if we can absorb what Wigan throw in the first 20 minutes or so then we have as good a chance of beating Wigan as we have of anything else.

And you said wigan play boring rugby

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:41 pm  

St pete wrote:

And you said wigan play boring rugby

They do. They play the same plays over and over again. Then Sam Tomkins runs. And of course there is the three man piley, which always dulls down a game of rugby.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:49 pm  

This is a year where we may take down Wigan at Wembley. Finally after so long the chance for Saints to give some payback for those chances spurned pre SL.

Sadly I think if we get by Hull KR. It will be Wigan Saints Semi With an all yorkshire semi to make sure the semi's are sellouts. The final always sells well no matter who plays.


I've heard they started warming the yorkshire balls last week.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:50 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

They do. They play the same plays over and over again. Then Sam Tomkins runs. And of course there is the three man piley, which always dulls down a game of rugby.

that was not boring

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:53 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

They do. They play the same plays over and over again. Then Sam Tomkins runs. And of course there is the three man piley, which always dulls down a game of rugby.

They play great well rehearsed rugby which is drilled in to them by a very very good coach.

The way they move it wide with all the runners as options causes the defence all sort of problems.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:54 pm  

Both sides showed that they are vulnerable today. Wire are starting to pick up a run of injuries, so missing the semi and the final, will help them there getting players back.

I still say 2nd is not out of the question if we win all our games.

Wire's last 3 Catalan away, then Wigan, then Hull

Cat's away is tricky at the best of times, with them aiming for 4th spot all the more tricky.

Wigan have shown today they can beat Wire when it counts.

If they lose those 2 games, we will be 1 point off the Wire and well it's squeaky bum time and we all know what happened last year.

It's not probable. But it is possible. We need to be consistent and then wait and see if the Wheels fall off the Wire. It's a bit much to ask but far from impossible to imagine.

Re: Wigan v Warrington : Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:49 pm  

I think we saw today a Wigan side that will comfortably do the double.

Wire are an excellent side, but struggled to live with Wigan.

In the big games this year that have mattered, Wigan have had the ability to turn the notch upto 11 in both defence and offence. The main challengers to Wigan be it Warrington or Saints just havent been able to live with them.

I know my fellow Saints fans will make the excuse about losing to Wigan because we have had injuries, however in all those matches and throughout the season our defence has been awful. Unless we can somehow work out how to defend in the manner of Wigan, then i fear an absolute thrashing by the pies, if we meet in the cup or playoffs.

An interesting point to note is that with Briers and Morley missing Wire looked directionless for much of the match.
They are both veteran players and this does not bode well for Wires long term future as a top team. Especially when you consider Hodgson is also abut 34 years old.
I have a sneaky feeling this match will be seen as a watershed moment for the Wire. It would not surprise me if their moment in the spotlight is now over, and they will go back to being a decent but ultimately unsuccessful club.

How wire react to this will also be interesting. They have a few tough fixtures coming up, and if Saints can get on a run, then who knows we could end up finishing second. That would be an amazing achievement if it happened, and would be very unexpected.