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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Maybe he is homesick? Just a thought.

Could be. Based on this season's performances we wouldn't miss him if he left.
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Just a fraction late, just afraction of a shoulder charge that was just a fraction to the head. Left welham out for just a fraction of four weeks. Dirty cynical attack that has become saints under brown. Shame from a team that I used to like to watch

Pretty sure he went off with a knee injury?
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i cant see where our next win is going to come fromto be honest warrington and leeds could be really embarrassing to watch. can it get any worse?
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Its always an interesting exercise to imagine the opposition with equivalent players out when you hit an injury crisis (including suspensions). Tends to put your own team into perspective.
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I know we have a lot of players out, but the crucial players that are missing is why we have been so poor. Lomax and Roby are our best players and have such an influence when we are attacking.

We also missed Wilkin on Saturday. Ashe was terrible in comparison so it was no wonder why our attack was pathetic.

If we had them 3 back then we would have won the game on Saturday quite convincingly.
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We also missed Wilkin on Saturday. Ashe was terrible in comparison so it was no wonder why our attack was pathetic.

Poor Ashe has had all of half a game in two years so I don't know what anyone was expecting from him. Had Brown actually given him some game time with Wilkin, instead of opting for Wello in the halves, Ashe may have been able to offer more to the team on Saturday.
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BrisbaneRhino wrote:
Its always an interesting exercise to imagine the opposition with equivalent players out when you hit an injury crisis (including suspensions). Tends to put your own team into perspective.


It does. Like how London were down to just 17 available players and had five fewer internationals on the field than we did, yet they beat us. Or how Hull KR have such an injury and form crisis that they have conceded 178 points in their last three games against other sides, yet we managed just 14 and 18 against them and they too beat us convincingly (twice).

Seriously, the injury 'crisis' isn't a good enough excuse. There are more than enough senior players on the field to be winning games against the likes of London and Hull KR. It wasn't any injury crisis that left the team with no halfbacks and incredibly poor prop forwards, it was the board of Directors.
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We also missed Wilkin on Saturday. Ashe was terrible in comparison so it was no wonder why our attack was pathetic.

Poor Ashe has had all of half a game in two years so I don't know what anyone was expecting from him. Had Brown actually given him some game time with Wilkin, instead of opting for Wello in the halves, Ashe may have been able to offer more to the team on Saturday.


Lets see if he's in for next week then. I understand he hasn't had much game time, but he didn't look anything special.
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Lets see if he's in for next week then. I understand he hasn't had much game time, but he didn't look anything special.


Ashe reminds me of Wello in the little I've seen of him. Clearly a very competent player, but lacking in the pace to be a fullback at Super League level.
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I don't think the post was an attack on Ashe. But just simply stating that Ashe in comparison was not as good. It's not to say he did not try or do his best.

I think from what I heard, he tried everything he could.

It's nothing to do with age.

Same as with Wellens when he plays halfback. He is not as good, I'm sure he busts a gut and tries everything he knows, but effort will only get you so far and ability is what we are missing.
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