Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:39 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

His wording was:

Could also include intangibles like living in Wigan, the local women, the 'classy' lifestyle in the area.

Do you really think £300k is compensation enough for having to live with that though? I doubt it.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:32 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

But Wigan have already been given permission to use it? Very suspect.

And on Sam's wages, fine, it could be possible. But what is your opinion of Leneghan's comments about beating any offer from any club in either code? Any meaning to that or just a complete lie wrapped up in positive PR for the fans benefit?

As I said if you add up Sams current wage plus the £50K allowance for O'Loughlin and Joels wage I expect that would put him on top or very near the top of the tree salary wise.

If the marquee player doesn't get approved then I guess only Dudson and Flower will be recruited. If it is agreed then I think there maybe one more signing.

BTW Roby and Ryan Hall were two other marquee players mentioned in the article.

There are also some other possible changes to the salary cap that I know of will also be discussed/debated next week.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:04 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

As I said if you add up Sams current wage plus the £50K allowance for O'Loughlin and Joels wage I expect that would put him on top or very near the top of the tree salary wise.

If the marquee player doesn't get approved then I guess only Dudson and Flower will be recruited. If it is agreed then I think there maybe one more signing.

BTW Roby and Ryan Hall were two other marquee players mentioned in the article.

There are also some other possible changes to the salary cap that I know of will also be discussed/debated next week.

You should be a politician Rogues. What is your view on Leneghan's comments that Wigan can offer more than anyone else? Propaganda to please the fans and nothing more? Or is there something drastic going on with the cap discussions?

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:14 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

As I said if you add up Sams current wage plus the £50K allowance for O'Loughlin and Joels wage I expect that would put him on top or very near the top of the tree salary wise.

If the marquee player doesn't get approved then I guess only Dudson and Flower will be recruited. If it is agreed then I think there maybe one more signing.

BTW Roby and Ryan Hall were two other marquee players mentioned in the article.

There are also some other possible changes to the salary cap that I know of will also be discussed/debated next week.

Are these changes the ones I pm you about?

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:39 pm  

Ok so its gone from a change to the rules to a proposed change.

Maybe leneghan is hedging his bets. I have no doubt that if sam was on say 100k. Add to that 50k from head choppers wage. Then say 75k from hoffmiester and joel then you have 300k.

But lenaghan is hoping the RFL adopt his ideas therefore taking sams money off the cap allowing the purchase of some additional players. If it does not get retified then the promote goulding to centre

I'd actually have less problems if the RFL said they would pay wages off cap for england nationals. That way success is rewarded. But with injuries it may not hold some players as you would not be garuanteed the money each year.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:14 pm  

I believe Shaun Wane is on the Rugby League programme on Radio Merseyside tonight so there may be questions asked on there. It should be worth listening to.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:51 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'd actually have less problems if the RFL said they would pay wages off cap for england nationals. That way success is rewarded. But with injuries it may not hold some players as you would not be garuanteed the money each year.

Problem with that is what you mentioned, you couldn't plan ahead as you might not be in the England team 12 months on.

The only way "England" players could be off cap is if they were centrally contracted, but that could only be justified if there were increased numbers of internationals which meant missing a large chunk of club games (i.e. RU, Cricket).

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:06 pm  

inside_man wrote:

Problem with that is what you mentioned, you couldn't plan ahead as you might not be in the England team 12 months on.

The only way "England" players could be off cap is if they were centrally contracted, but that could only be justified if there were increased numbers of internationals which meant missing a large chunk of club games (i.e. RU, Cricket).

We don't want to go down the cricket road. The England players basically owned by the England cricket board and hardly play for their county.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:20 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Add the £50K to Joels salary and then add Sams and it will be a tidy amount. Then consider Hoffman, Deacon, Coley, O'Carrol and Ben Davies have also left the club.
Anyway according to tonights Wigan Evening Post the "marquee player" amendment is due to be discussed by the Superleague clubs next week.

Apologies, I misread the article. It appears that the meeting was actually held yesterday.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:25 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Apologies, I misread the article. It appears that the meeting was actually held yesterday.

Wigan and RFL discussed it two weeks ago.