Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:33 am  

SecondRowSaint wrote:

Might be bias when watching the game but I don't think he stood out at all other than the kick for Burgess' try.

Bias? So did he not win MoM then? It's not bias at all, he won the MoM award!

Personally I thought Clubb was MoM.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:01 am  

Roges, you point out both a strength and a weakness in the Wigan line up. No fixed half back pairing is throwing the timing out, however it also mean that there's depth in that line up.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:43 am  

I think some poor excuses for our loss. It's greens fault for taking Burns out and Wigan was offside when charged the kick down.

We made two school boy errors and Wigan punished us for them. Turner not in position for the kick that was charged down. We been charged down constantly this year and im amazed KC and the coaching staff haven't addressed this.

Poor decision by robes passing it to Richards on last tackle in our 20m zone cost us the 2nd try.

We had players out injured for sure but so did they. I honestly beleive the team we had out was good enough to win which shows we are pretty decent depth wise.

I know I'll have the pies responding to what I'm about to say but I don't care and Im being honest -

I don't think Wigan are good team. I don't tnink they will give us any problems later down the line. Their pack is ok but they have no halves to trouble big teams in big games. I now sol was out and he makes big difference but Imo Wigan won't win the grand final and they ain't a patch on the Wigan of last year.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:23 am  

I thought the effort and commitment was first class yesterday. To be without Lomax, Percival, Burns, Walsh, Wilkin and Vea before the game and then to lose Greenwood after 15 minutes and Wellens at half time, so effectively just had 2 subs to rotate was a remarkable effort to come so close.

When we get anything like a fully fit team on the park we'll be very difficult to beat and it's simply key injuries and the volume of injuries that is crippling us at the moment.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:10 am  

St pete wrote:

I think some poor excuses for our loss. It's greens fault for taking Burns out and Wigan was offside when charged the kick down.

We made two school boy errors and Wigan punished us for them. Turner not in position for the kick that was charged down. We been charged down constantly this year and im amazed KC and the coaching staff haven't addressed this.

Poor decision by robes passing it to Richards on last tackle in our 20m zone cost us the 2nd try.

We had players out injured for sure but so did they. I honestly beleive the team we had out was good enough to win which shows we are pretty decent depth wise.

I know I'll have the pies responding to what I'm about to say but I don't care and Im being honest -

I don't think Wigan are good team. I don't tnink they will give us any problems later down the line. Their pack is ok but they have no halves to trouble big teams in big games. I now sol was out and he makes big difference but Imo Wigan won't win the grand final and they ain't a patch on the Wigan of last year.

I didn't think Saints were a good team last year but they won the GF and won it without recognised halves that would trouble big teams! At this point in the season Wigan are not playing as well as last year for sure but they will certainly improve. The question is by how much and only time will tell? I also think that you need to factor in the fact that Saints are defending much better than last year. Wigan found it very difficult to break their defence down yesterday. Wigan's attack is not as fluent as last year yet but a good defence stops a good attack! Also Wigan's defence was good yesterday and so don't assume that if Saints had their recognised halves that the result would have been different. Maybe later in the season when both teams have players back then some of these questions will be answered.

Apart from the ifs buts and maybes, yesterday's game was a good tough game of rugby that could have gone either way. Isn't that want we all want to see and is what will keep species coming through the turnstiles?

I took a friend to the game who supports Gloucester RU and he really enjoyed the contest, intensity and atmosphere. He said that watching RL live he appreciated how tough, fit and skillful the players are.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:32 am  

It was a great game, and great advert for our game.

Re: THE Derby : Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:41 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Bias? So did he not win MoM then? It's not bias at all, he won the MoM award!

Personally I thought Clubb was MoM.

Sorry, I meant it might be my red vee specs that I don't focus on the other team so don't really notice who stands out for them which is why I thought Williams was ordinary bar one kick.

Re: THE Derby : Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:35 am  

How come when Hohaia went off in the Grand Final Saints say they lost their only half back, and then even though he played on Friday Saints say they have no half backs. Contradictory?

Didn't he sign for Saints as a halfback?

Re: THE Derby : Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:43 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How come when Hohaia went off in the Grand Final Saints say they lost their only half back, and then even though he played on Friday Saints say they have no half backs. Contradictory?

Didn't he sign for Saints as a halfback?

One word - Royce

Re: THE Derby : Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:56 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How come when Hohaia went off in the Grand Final Saints say they lost their only half back, and then even though he played on Friday Saints say they have no half backs. Contradictory?

Didn't he sign for Saints as a halfback?

How come when Flower was sent off Wigan say that Saints only won because of this? Yet, when Saints play with 15 men for 40 minutes, have to re-shuffle the whole squad and have 10 injuries, Wigan deserve their victory. Contradictory?

In all seriousness, on the day, Wigan were better than us, and deserved to win. We put up a very brave fight and the effort was top drawer. Last year when we lost, we often disgraced ourselves. This year when we lose, we go down fighting, which is pleasing. I'm not too downbeat as I don't believe any player on that field (for either side) could have given any more. Trophies aren't won on Good Friday and if we ever get a full strength side on the pitch, we can beat anyone!