Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:59 pm  

St pete wrote:

I take it you happy with this seasons performances?

Do you think it was correct to sign a fullback on as a replacement for a scrum half and the fullback ain't played in the halves for about 10 years?

Do you think it was correct to replace one of the best props in the world with a backrow who'd had next to no experince at prop?

Do you think it's a good idea to play 16 v 17 most weeks?

Do you think we looked well coached?

Do you think only playing one practice game was a good idea when trying a new combination of two fullbacks in the halves?

Do you think it's good that we rotate are wingers most weeks?

Do you agree that when most teams was slugging out in a long tough preseason that Royce had us resting at home?

Do you think it's great that we have lost more games at LP than we've won?

I'll ask again. Who do you know that is:

(a) Immediately available.

(b) Will definitely do a better job?

And I mean know, not speculate.

Because if, as I suspect, then answer is 'no-one' or 'I don't know' then it proves that there's a reason why Eamonn hasn't and will not react as per 99.9% of the people on here who post emotional nonsensical tripe. Everything I read on here is panic, sheer panic.

Seasons are won and lost in September/October, not March.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:00 am  

St pete wrote:

I take it you happy with this seasons performances?

Don't waste my time.

Do you think it was correct to sign a fullback on as a replacement for a scrum half and the fullback ain't played in the halves for about 10 years?

I don't know what terms Royce offered Hohaia. There are rumours of this and that. But no evidence. Am I happy we signed an experienced - not to mention relatively young - player with proven big-match performance who can play in several positions? Yes.

Do you think it was correct to replace one of the best props in the world with a backrow who'd had next to no experince at prop?

Best props in the world are by definition nigh-on impossible to replace. As for signing Laffranchi - a) I have no idea who was *truly* available, b) we've signed experienced back-row forwards in the past who've made outstanding props (Fairleigh) c) Laffranchi is widely regarded in the NRL as a very good player and d) it's too early to judge him.

Do you think it's a good idea to play 16 v 17 most weeks?

Based on performances so far this tactic is problematic. However, the *reasoning* behind playing 16 vs 17 is to spare the players for the playoffs. It is therefore a good idea to wait until the playoffs to judge whether it is effective.

Do you think we looked well coached?

We're losing so no. But I see coaching as less of an issue than the complete lack of a single effective scrum half and no leader on the pitch.

Do you think only playing one practice game was a good idea when trying a new combination of two fullbacks in the halves?

Irrelevant. We don't have a scrum half so we could play a dozen friendlies and it would make no difference.

Do you think it's good that we rotate are wingers most weeks?

I consider wingers the least important players in the modern game.

Do you agree that when most teams was slugging out in a long tough preseason that Royce had us resting at home?

This is a statement of fact. It's like saying "do you agree the sun rises in the morning?"

Do you think it's great that we have lost more games at LP than we've won?

Now you're being ridiculous. Pick the dummy up, son.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:11 am  

Surprised Hohaia is coming in for some stick, I thought he was one of your most dangerous players going forward. I was genuinely surprised how lacking in confidence St Helen's appeared to be. On the plus side I thought your defence looked pretty solid and held out for some long periods of pressure. A better decision by Foster in the 2nd half and you might well have ground out a result.

Some tough fixture coming up now for Saints which must be a concern. I am sure you'll find some form soon enough though and will still comfortably reach the top 8.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:17 am  

Forget all the doubters and the jibes from other clubs Saints fans. You are going through what every team that has a big change in where they play go through. But the joke about the Stobart trailer is funny and could be related to the roof at your new place. Your scrum half tonight made some bad decisions. Chin up boys and girls.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:48 am  

St pete wrote:

I take it you happy with this seasons performances? No

Do you think it was correct to sign a fullback on as a replacement for a scrum half and the fullback ain't played in the halves for about 10 years? He switched to Full Back in 2008 in all fairness, he's definitely experienced in the halves. Having said that I would have preferred an organising 7.

Do you think it was correct to replace one of the best props in the world with a backrow who'd had next to no experince at prop?No

Do you think it's a good idea to play 16 v 17 most weeks?No

Do you think we looked well coached?No

Do you think only playing one practice game was a good idea when trying a new combination of two fullbacks in the halves?Probably not no, I think Royce saw an easy start to the season and thought he could use them to test out partnerships. Didn't work out very well.

Do you think it's good that we rotate are wingers most weeks?Definitely not.

Do you agree that when most teams was slugging out in a long tough preseason that Royce had us resting at home?Out fitness looks poor so no.

Do you think it's great that we have lost more games at LP than we've won?Embarrasing.

I'll answer this too, I'm pretty bored.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:15 am  

St pete wrote:

Is that a serious post or you taking pi$$?

Serious post as Royce has a very good background, and Tony Smith started bad and look now one of the best coaches in rugby league.At the moment Lavatory Park but soon be a Fortress Park.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:23 am  

Allez wrote:

I'll ask again. Who do you know that is:

(a) Immediately available.

(b) Will definitely do a better job?

And I mean know, not speculate.

Because if, as I suspect, then answer is 'no-one' or 'I don't know' then it proves that there's a reason why Eamonn hasn't and will not react as per 99.9% of the people on here who post emotional nonsensical tripe. Everything I read on here is panic, sheer panic.

Seasons are won and lost in September/October, not March.

How the hell would I know who's available?

It's the clubs job to know or find out, not mine.

All I know, we can't continue to go like this. We played a poor bulls team 9 playsrs out injured who hadn't won at home and we lost.

Weve also been beat by a injury hit hull kr and Catalan team and struggled against Salford at home and London away, teams are putting scores on these for fun.

Something has to give mate.

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:27 am  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Serious post as Royce has a very good background, and Tony Smith started bad and look now one of the best coaches in rugby league.At the moment Lavatory Park but soon be a Fortress Park.

I take it you didn't see what the wests fans was saying when we announced he was our head coach?

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:50 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Don't waste my time.

I don't know what terms Royce offered Hohaia. There are rumours of this and that. But no evidence. Am I happy we signed an experienced - not to mention relatively young - player with proven big-match performance who can play in several positions? Yes.

Best props in the world are by definition nigh-on impossible to replace. As for signing Laffranchi - a) I have no idea who was *truly* available, b) we've signed experienced back-row forwards in the past who've made outstanding props (Fairleigh) c) Laffranchi is widely regarded in the NRL as a very good player and d) it's too early to judge him.

Based on performances so far this tactic is problematic. However, the *reasoning* behind playing 16 vs 17 is to spare the players for the playoffs. It is therefore a good idea to wait until the playoffs to judge whether it is effective.

We're losing so no. But I see coaching as less of an issue than the complete lack of a single effective scrum half and no leader on the pitch.

Irrelevant. We don't have a scrum half so we could play a dozen friendlies and it would make no difference.

I consider wingers the least important players in the modern game.

This is a statement of fact. It's like saying "do you agree the sun rises in the morning?"

Now you're being ridiculous. Pick the dummy up, son.

Utter rubbish! Your happy we signed a fullback to play halfback? Hahahaha great stuff.

The was many props off contract last season. Jason king, kite, griffin, Gil dudson, Lauaki, kafusia (spelling), Luke bailey plus other I can't think off.

You comment on that fact it's not coaching and down to the jack of a scrum half, then maybe if he signed one on instead of a fullback we'd not be in this mess!

Re: Royce Out ! : Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:02 am  

x_100%_Saint_x wrote:

Do you live in Callands in Warrington?

Used to. Live in East Manchester nowadays.