Re: Salary cap amendment : Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:03 pm  

Saddened! wrote: Poor journalism by the Telegraph? If it's in the Telegraph you can bet it's written by a RU journo who knows next to nothing about RL. Like this guy, who thinks 'Tomkins' is spelt with a p.

Saddened! wrote: Poor journalism by the Telegraph? If it's in the Telegraph you can bet it's written by a RU journo who knows next to nothing about RL. Like this guy, who thinks 'Tomkins' is spelt with a p.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:04 am  

The usual "conspiracy" theories! LOL

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:09 am  

jaybs wrote:

The usual "conspiracy" theories! LOL

Of course. But you must be able to see that it needs clarification? We've got the RFL's website running an article stating Wigan have taken advantage of ammended salary cap rules for marquee players then Andy Wilson stating there are no rule changes.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:46 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Of course. But you must be able to see that it needs clarification? We've got the RFL's website running an article stating Wigan have taken advantage of ammended salary cap rules for marquee players then Andy Wilson stating there are no rule changes.

Definitely needs clarification in some way.

It could just be that it's a combination of O'Loughlin getting 50k off his salary on the cap, wasn't there another kinda 50k off for home grown players after a certain number of time, as well as perhaps a new 50k for a side containing members of the England squad? That might be what is being classed as the new "marquee" clause type thing.

Either way, we've lost 4 big players, a couple of squad players, and so far have signed 3 squad players, it really isn't out of the realms of possibility that the "special dispensation" is only another £50k or so.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:00 pm  

inside_man wrote:

Either way, we've lost 4 big players, a couple of squad players, and so far have signed 3 squad players, it really isn't out of the realms of possibility that the "special dispensation" is only another £50k or so.

I hate to turn the discussion back on itself in a never ending circle, but if that is the case (And I'm not saying it's not) it doesn't tally with Tomkins being reported as the highest paid league player in the world or with Leneghan's statement that he could offer a player a deal that would beat any club in either code, when clearly he couldn't.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:58 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I hate to turn the discussion back on itself in a never ending circle, but if that is the case (And I'm not saying it's not) it doesn't tally with Tomkins being reported as the highest paid league player in the world or with Leneghan's statement that he could offer a player a deal that would beat any club in either code, when clearly he couldn't.

Add the £50K to Joels salary and then add Sams and it will be a tidy amount. Then consider Hoffman, Deacon, Coley, O'Carrol and Ben Davies have also left the club.
Anyway according to tonights Wigan Evening Post the "marquee player" amendment is due to be discussed by the Superleague clubs next week.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:02 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Anyway according to tonights Wigan Evening Post the "marquee player" amendment is due to be discussed by the Superleague clubs next week.

But Wigan have already been given permission to use it? Very suspect.

And on Sam's wages, fine, it could be possible. But what is your opinion of Leneghan's comments about beating any offer from any club in either code? Any meaning to that or just a complete lie wrapped up in positive PR for the fans benefit?

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:10 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

But what is your opinion of Leneghan's comments about beating any offer from any club in either code? Any meaning to that or just a complete lie wrapped up in positive PR for the fans benefit?

I can't remember the wording, but did he say beat any offer or just make a more attractive one? It just came across as a chairman trying to say that we will always be able to attract good players and shouldn't need to worry about RU as much as everyone is. But that's the way I took it, a bit of propaganda. I don't think he could seriously even consider trying to compete with the likes of French RU or whatever.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:23 pm  

inside_man wrote:

I can't remember the wording, but did he say beat any offer or just make a more attractive one? It just came across as a chairman trying to say that we will always be able to attract good players and shouldn't need to worry about RU as much as everyone is. But that's the way I took it, a bit of propaganda. I don't think he could seriously even consider trying to compete with the likes of French RU or whatever.

His wording was:

Ian Leneghan wrote:

It shows the strength of the sport and the Wigan Club that we are able to invest in such an exceptional player within the Salary Cap. I am also confident that for the right person we are able to offer a more attractive package than any other Club in either code.

A 'more attractive package' to me means contract terms as opposed to spurious nonsense like the honour of playing for a club and stuff like that. Could also include intangibles like living in Wigan, the local women, the classy lifestyle in the area.

Re: Salary cap amendment : Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:40 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

A 'more attractive package' to me means contract terms as opposed to spurious nonsense like the honour of playing for a club and stuff like that. Could also include intangibles like living in Wigan, the local women, the classy lifestyle in the area.

I think it is more likely to be saying what he thinks people want to hear to make them happy. Theres no way you can really get a current SOO and Aus test player to come over here whilst at the same time staying under the cap