Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:03 pm  

Ron wrote:

Speaking of turned inside out, I can't remember a player looking as confused as Wellens on Charnley try...

This is the same charnley who was nowhere to be seen/ out of position when meli/foster turned him inside out for two tries?

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:05 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

This is the same charnley who was nowhere to be seen/ out of position when meli/foster turned him inside out for two tries?

Yes Charnley is hopeless defensively, like watching a high school winger at times, good point.

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:10 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

This is the same charnley who was nowhere to be seen/ out of position when meli/foster turned him inside out for two tries?

Joel came out of the line for the first then took them both to stop Meli for the second.....hardly defensively poor.

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:21 pm  

Pieman wrote:

Joel came out of the line for the first then took them both to stop Meli for the second.....hardly defensively poor.

Just wrong mate. Charnley came in off his wing like a 10 year old.

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:22 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Just wrong mate. Charnley came in off his wing like a 10 year old.

For the reasons I posted above.....

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:25 pm  

I've said all season that Charnley's defensive partnership with Joel is a huge liability. He doesn't seem to have the confidence or the communication to stick to his wing. But my god, I can almost forgive him for that weakness as long as he keeps scoring tries like he has the last few weeks. After all, his defense can improve (and slowly is doing, I think).

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:26 pm  

Ron wrote:

Yes Charnley is hopeless defensively, like watching a high school winger at times, good point.

Or if its my school team, its about 7 of the team that are hopeless defensively!

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:41 pm  

Only read the first page of the thread so it may have been mentioned already but re. Wigan being 'lucky' with injuries, has it occured to you that perhaps we are the fittest and best conditioned side in SL?

It's no secret how hard a pre-season the Wigan lads have gone through for the past few years, or how highly rated our fitness staff are.

I find it amazing the number of injuries other teams (including and indeed especially Saints) get that aren't necessarily the result of a contact sport, but more of players not being in good enough condition to participate at the highest level. Muscle and ligament injuries are a prime example.

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:45 pm  

St pete wrote:

The wello turning his back thing was right in front of me and I was in shock St how poor wello looked.

I was just shocked that he did that. I thought Wello had a very poor game yesterday given that he had a very good game last week. I was disappointed in him.

Re: Near perfect and we still lose : Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:58 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I was just shocked that he did that. I thought Wello had a very poor game yesterday given that he had a very good game last week. I was disappointed in him.

I think some of shouting and frustration he was taking out on the ref was brought on by his own performance.