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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:23 pm  
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Do you have a life or are you really so sad that in order to make yourself feel better about yourself you follow me around the boards?

:roll: sad old git


Trust me I have much better things to do than follow an unemployed teacher around.

You know the saying "Those that can do, do, those that can't teach"

And yes I have said the same thing to my daughter, even though she is good at her teaching job.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:26 pm  
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Trust me I have much better things to do than follow an unemployed teacher around.

You know the saying "Those that can do, do, those that can't teach"

And yes I have said the same thing to my daughter, even though she is good at her teaching job.

Then sod off and do whatever it is you have to do that is much better.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:33 pm  
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Trust me I have much better things to do than follow an unemployed teacher around.

You know the saying "Those that can do, do, those that can't teach"

And yes I have said the same thing to my daughter, even though she is good at her teaching job.



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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:45 pm  
Looking back at it now, i think i may have overreacted a little.

He was quite late on Wheeler but i think it was more the force of the collision than the placing of Hoffman's tackle that hurt Wheeler.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:20 pm  
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And nor do I. I'm calling it how I saw it, just like you. I'm making nothing up. And I don't care about neutrality because, when Saints play another team, I'm not a neutral! I'm a Saints fan! And I don't like to see one of our best young players needlessly taken out like that.

Well, if you want to form an accurate opinion on that kick, you need to watch the replay. I've watched it twice now (not for that tackle; just because I wanted to watch the match back). Hoffman was late, needlessly forceful and he's taken out a great young player who deserved a chance at no.6. Hoffman shoulder charged Wheeler at pace in the shoulder. Surprise, surprise, Wheeler's shoulder is now knackered.

So if Jammer had damaged Lima's shoulder with his collision then that would have been ok?
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:26 pm  
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So if Jammer had damaged Lima's shoulder with his collision then that would have been ok?

Yes. Firstly, because Lima is a dirty git. Secondly, because shoulder charges on a player when they are NOT kicking the ball are legal. Thirdly, because Lima is a dirty git.

Simples.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:31 pm  
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Why wasn't the blatent forward pass called as a forward pass? It was still a forward pass even though it wasn't called. Even your coach thought so, and we all saw him think so! Just because our crap touchies/refs don't call something doesn't mean to say it didn't happen. Maybe the RFL will have something to say about it; maybe they won't. Time will tell.

Why did the ref give a knock-on when the ball clearly hit Deacon in the face? That changed the momentum of the game which led to Saints two late tries. If you are going to harp on about refereeing decisions then take a balanced view.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:32 pm  
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Yes. Firstly, because Lima is a dirty git. Secondly, because shoulder charges on a player when they are NOT kicking the ball are legal. Thirdly, because Lima is a dirty git.

Simples.

Firstly Lima isn't a dirty git. Secondly the challenge on Wheeler was legal. Thirdly Lima is not a dirty git.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:34 pm  
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Why did the ref give a knock-on when the ball clearly hit Deacon in the face?

If Deacon's face knocked the ball forward, then that is a knock on. Had it knocked the ball backwards, it wouldn't have been a knock on.
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Re: Ryan Hoffman : Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:34 pm  
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Secondly the challenge on Wheeler was legal.

I disagree.
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