Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:50 pm  

Double post

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:54 pm  

St pete wrote:

From the five games played this year we've took massive steps backwards!

Backwards from what point exactly? Losing the fourth Grand Final on the trot you mean? Just sneaking into second in the last game of the season?

Our attack has gone very poor, it's predictable, boring, slow and don't look capable of putting any moves on if we have any moves.

Oh, that just sounds like the comments people were making about our attack last season!

Our defence is as poor as I've seen for many years, I feel worried every time a team gets in our 22 meter zone.

We shipped an average of 20 points a match last season. What's our average for the five games of this season?

Our kicking game is utter rubbish!

And it was last brilliant when, exactly? When Pryce and Eastmond were fit maybe?

We've go no fire in us, no passion and no pride.

We had it in spades at Cardiff and, according to those who went there, in Perpignan too. We even tried a fightback against Warrington, once we'd remembered how to play a game without Cunningham on the pitch.

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:54 pm  

[quote="SaintsFan"]No. I didn't say that. It was you who was claiming Potter was wonderful. I was simply giving examples of how he didn't achieve what we had achieved previously. In fact, he took us backward because we became fat and unfit, which left us vulnerable to losing games in the second half.[/quote]

Well with Simmons we have at least learned how to lose in the first half.

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:55 pm  

Benidorm John wrote:

Well with Simmons we have at least learned how to lose in the first half.

Gives us options in the second, anyway!

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:03 pm  

[quote="SaintsFan"]Backwards from what point exactly? Losing the fourth Grand Final on the trot you mean?

In that case, if we dont make the grand final we have taken step backwards.

If we don't make the top 8 we will have taken step backwards.

If we let more points in than last year, then we've taken steps backward.

If we don't finish leading points scorers then we've taken steps backward.

IMO all of the above will mean we will have taken massive steps backward come the end of the year, I'd love to be wrong but on current form I can't see anything other than a poor season.


Have we ever failed to score in the first half of a game 3 times in a season?

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:04 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Backwards from what point exactly? Losing the fourth Grand Final on the trot you mean? Just sneaking into second in the last game of the season?

Oh, that just sounds like the comments people were making about our attack last season!

We shipped an average of 20 points a match last season. What's our average for the five games of this season?

And it was last brilliant when, exactly? When Pryce and Eastmond were fit maybe?

We had it in spades at Cardiff and, according to those who went there, in Perpignan too. We even tried a fightback against Warrington, once we'd remembered how to play a game without Cunningham on the pitch.

Another couple of mins in Catalan and they would of won

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:08 pm  

Father Jack wrote:

Another couple of mins in Catalan and they would of won

And had Andrew Dixon's effort been awarded, we would have won.

Had Foster converted that final try against Wigan, we would have won.

Had the Warrington game been five minutes longer, we would have won.

Had the moon been pink and the rain fallen upwards, we would all have died.

Would haves don't count; final results do.

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:10 pm  

Father Jack wrote:

Another couple of mins in Catalan and they would of won

Plus the fight back against Warrington was more a case of them taking there foot of the gas as tony smith said after the game.

It's just a utter shocking start to a season and I honestly fear what the likes of Wigan, Warrington and giants will do to us at their grounds.

Even with the injury situation at Leeds, I can't see anything other than a heavy defeat.

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:14 pm  

St pete wrote:

In that case, if we dont make the grand final we have taken step backwards.
If we don't make the top 8 we will have taken step backwards.
If we let more points in than last year, then we've taken steps backward.
If we don't finish leading points scorers then we've taken steps backward.
IMO all of the above will mean we will have taken massive steps backward come the end of the year, I'd love to be wrong but on current form I can't see anything other than a poor season.

So those are your measures? Ok. In that case, we took steps backwards under Potter. We didn't get to two CC finals. We shipped more points under Potter than under Anderson. Significantly more in the 2010 season actually. We only just made it to the second spot in 2010; we'd been fighting over the first spot for six years previously.

Have we ever failed to score in the first half of a game 3 times in a season?

I have no idea.

Re: Royce Simmons OUT : Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:15 pm  

Does anyone know or see any reason of having a winger on the bench?

I know Royce said he'll be having a outside back on the bench but did he explain why?

I just don't see the point in having foster on the bench. Last year foster had taken gardners spot on the wing and was playing very well but has now been dropped to the bench.