Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:47 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

On another note I thought Savelio was superb and surely can't be dropped? Greg Richards however, continues to look like a pudding.

Richards is 19. We've no right to expect anything special from someone so young. If anything I'd say he's above the curve.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:48 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

"Bottom of the trough"? Good god, man! We're currently lying second whilst smack in the middle of one of the worst injury runs we've experienced in a long time. If that's rock bottom I'll take it every day of the week.

Oh ye of little, little faith.

Oh I have every faith we can turn it around... I just don't know if we will.

Coaches have been sacked with better records than we currently do! Certainly not suggesting we go there but this is as bad as it should get, and no further.

As for "worst injury crisis" - nope, we're not worse than last year - flanagan was 7! We adapted then and we aren't now.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:49 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Peacock has only really turned up in the 2/3 games. By his usual standards he was going through the motions in the first 6/7 rounds (even though his average is better than most props good days). Most Leeds fans will tell you that Cuthbertson has been our best prop this year and also Singlton has played a strong part too (hell even JJB was having a strong season before injury playing in the front row). Similarly if you ask Leeds fans who our best forward has been, quite a few will say Stevie Ward, again tonight his workload was huge and you seem to overlook the efforts of quite a few Leeds forwards to roll out an image from 1/2 years ago that it's solely Peacock......well it isn't anymore.

Cuthbertson does the flashy stuff. But when Leeds need someone to steady the ship when things aren't going their way Peacock is ALWAYS the man who steps up and delivers - big time. That's a MASSIVE attribute to have. To lose it would be problematic to say the least.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:53 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Richards is at present, but he's very young. Agree on Savelio, we've got a couple of consecutive home games coming up so I'd play him in those.

Leeds look very exciting this season, what would you put that down to? I've got a theory it's to do with Sinfield not having anywhere near as much involvement but I've not seen all that much of Leeds?

Cuthbertson has been a breath of fresh air for our pack and taken some of the pressure off of Peacock.Young lads like Ward and Singleton also stepping up into big time players now and like you say, i think Sinfield being out of the way has led to others, like Mcguire who has thrived on the extra responsibility, and Sutcliffe to lay their own stamp on things.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:56 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Cuthbertson does the flashy stuff. But when Leeds need someone to steady the ship when things aren't going their way Peacock is ALWAYS the man who steps up and delivers - big time. That's a MASSIVE attribute to have. To lose it would be problematic to say the least.

Don't confuse Cuthbertson doing the offloads as him just being a flashy guy, he done more carries and tackles this year than Peacock. First 5 rounds he was averaging 39 tackles a game.....not bad for a flashy player.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:57 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Oh I have every faith we can turn it around... I just don't know if we will.

Were you thinking this a handful of games ago when when we were unbeaten? No.

Basically what you're saying is you've lost all your confidence because we've not remained unbeaten whilst suffering a massive injury load? Talk about fickle!

Coaches have been sacked with better records than we currently do! Certainly not suggesting we go there but this is as bad as it should get, and no further.

As for "worst injury crisis" - nope, we're not worse than last year - flanagan was 7! We adapted then and we aren't now.

We adapted - at the END OF THE SEASON with a full compliment of forwards. We certainly didn't look anything like title contenders at the mid point of the season.

Personally I feel pretty good. At NO POINT have we thrown the towel in this season. Aside from tonight (& the WCC which I don't really count) where we allowed the game to get away from us we've shown up BIG TIME in every game. Against Wigan when we had no half backs we could easily have folded. Against Hull KR we went down whilst dominating possession. Against Hull we made some silly mistakes - but the lads kept trying.

Consider Warrington's recent performances. Consider Wigan's absolute PASTING at the hands of god-awful Salford.

And you don't think we can "turn it around"? Let's wait and see what everyone else gets up to over the next five matches. If you think the likes of Warrington or Wigan are suddenly problem free you are seriously mistaken. And as I've said, Leeds gain nothing whatsoever from a giant advantage at this point of the year. How many times have we seen teams fall apart with a similar record in SLs previous?

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:58 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Don't confuse Cuthbertson doing the offloads as him just being a flashy guy, he done more carries and tackles this year than Peacock. First 5 rounds he was averaging 39 tackles a game.....not bad for a flashy player.

Given the choice of losing Cuthbertson or Peacock for the rest of the season - I'm pretty sure I know who you'd pick.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:59 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Given the choice of losing Cuthbertson or Peacock for the rest of the season - I'm pretty sure I know who you'd pick.

You would be wrong.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:59 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Cuthbertson does the flashy stuff. But when Leeds need someone to steady the ship when things aren't going their way Peacock is ALWAYS the man who steps up and delivers - big time. That's a MASSIVE attribute to have. To lose it would be problematic to say the least.

More tripe.

You're embarrassing yourself more with every post.

Carry on

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:01 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Given the choice of losing Cuthbertson or Peacock for the rest of the season - I'm pretty sure I know who you'd pick.

Now, in 2015? I think you'd be surprised.