Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:02 am  

St pete wrote:

It will be interesting what he does with wheeler. I think he's off contract at the end of the year so Gaz will be looking to prove himself.

From all our current players, I feel Gary Wheeler is the most suited halfback to play alongside Walsh next year but I doubt we will risk giving him a new deal. Walsh is a play maker who doesn't take the line on and Gary Wheeler is a runner with great feet.

Just a Pitty Gaz will break down again.

I think he's got another year after this one. But he's got to be one more injury away from missing out on a future at Saints. A real shame.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:05 am  

Dux wrote:

I think he's got another year after this one. But he's got to be one more injury away from missing out on a future at Saints. A real shame.

Perhaps its our negetive vibes? Perhaps the fact that we, as a collective, expect him to get injured, that's what happens.

Everyone, quickly, send Wheels your good vibrations!

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:56 am  

I think Wheeler should be our 6 next year, assuming he's fit, which is a lot to ask. Him and Walsh will be a good pairing IMO.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:03 am  

Wheeler has done nothing to suggest he'll ever command a regular starting place.

He's another we should just release this year.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:38 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Backs to line up

Lomax
Makinson
Percival
Turner
Meli
Wheeler
G.O.B

Or is that too much to ask for?

I'm under the impression that O'Brien is a scrum half. Is that correct as some people seem to refer to him as a standoff?

I'd love to see that, players playing in there natural positions, 2 halfbacks on the field at the same time and some genuine pace in there too. With Roby back at 9 there can be no more excuses

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:43 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

I'd love to see that, players playing in there natural positions, 2 halfbacks on the field at the same time and some genuine pace in there too. With Roby back at 9 there can be no more excuses

With RObes back our forwards improved no-end. The forward performance against Hudds would easily beat Salford and given their current form, Bradford.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:26 pm  

St pete wrote:

For people getting on Browns back, what would you do with this current squad?


(I'm not saying he's not to blame for some things this year but the squad is awful)

I dont think I am getting on Browns back but there are things that I thought he would and could do that would enable us to actually compete with a weakened side.

the first area for me is the complete lack of defensive structure. At Hudds he got something of a reputation for introducing 3 and 4 man tackles that allowed the defenders more time to get off and slow the play the ball down. I really thought he would introduce that here. It looked at one point like he had (I think it was Widnes away) but I havent seen it since. If we slow down the opposition we have an easier job defending the next play - its just a process. He also needs to work with individuals to get them to number up correctly - this season there have been shocking displays of this - if you dont number up it then leaves either big gaps either side of the centres or 3 people running at the winger - there are some on here who want to blame the winger for this when the real culprit is somewhere else in the line.

So you have sorted out the defence. Next thing is giving field position too easily. So work out why we are giving penalties (quite likely because we are being stretched defensively) and reduce those and work out clear simple strategies for getting out of your own half. So we cut down on giving the opposition cheap posession in our half.

Honestly that would be enough to have seen us win a number of the games we have lost closely - its not good enough to win us any trophies but is a platform that we can start to build attack on.

Really I think that is coaching 101 and I cannot understand why it hasnt been done.

the rest of the crap he does with constantly tinkering with positions isnt helping us one bit - but i could live with that right now if he could reduce how easy it is at times for the opposition to get to our line and score.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:44 pm  

St. Etrigan wrote:

the rest of the crap he does with constantly tinkering with positions isnt helping us one bit - but i could live with that right now if he could reduce how easy it is at times for the opposition to get to our line and score.

I think in part it's the tinkering which is causing problems in both attack and defence. Players can't do either to the best of their capabilities if their inside/outside partners change almost every week.

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:09 pm  

St pete wrote:

For people getting on Browns back, what would you do with this current squad?


(I'm not saying he's not to blame for some things this year but the squad is awful)

Can't believe you are blaming Brown for this season, if I remember rightly he got us over performing at Huddersfield with a mediocre side.

Mmmmmm looks like a few have changed their opinions and realising the Giants fans do talk sense after all

Re: Nathan Brown : Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:17 pm  

FLYINGPROP wrote:

Can't believe you are blaming Brown for this season, if I remember rightly he got us over performing at Huddersfield with a mediocre side.

Mmmmmm looks like a few have changed their opinions and realising the Giants fans do talk sense after all