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Re: Shenton to HKR : Fri May 18, 2012 9:20 pm  
Another of our competitors for a top 4 place, Cats get a bye v London
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Fri May 18, 2012 9:58 pm  
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On another note, I'm a bit disappointed with some of the comments about Shenton. Whilst I don't think he's performing well enough at the moment, I think the celebrating that he might be leaving is over the top. He's still a Saints player and deserves our support at matches and is far from our worst ever signing.

Agreed.
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 1:53 am  
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Huddersfield have never had the ability to beat the top teams regularly or in high pressure games. I'm not sure whether it's the calibre of player they have though, I wouldn't take any of their main creators in Brown, Robinson or Brough.

On another note, I'm a bit disappointed with some of the comments about Shenton. Whilst I don't think he's performing well enough at the moment, I think the celebrating that he might be leaving is over the top. He's still a Saints player and deserves our support at matches and is far from our worst ever signing.



I would not say celebration, but as a Saints fan if he is going then I'd rather it was to a club who will pay all his wages. Whilst no a huge fan of Shenton, neither do I hate him, but he has been a disappointment from what I was expecting. (maybe I over expected)?

But he joins a list of disappointments and is far from the top of that list. In terms of getting shut of players he would be probably at the bottom of that list. There are a few others I could quite happily get the bunting out for.
Having said all that when at the game, I'll still cheer and shout for Perry et al. It's one thing to be critical another to basically become an opposition fan.
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 12:08 pm  
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Huddersfield have never had the ability to beat the top teams regularly or in high pressure games. I'm not sure whether it's the calibre of player they have though, I wouldn't take any of their main creators in Brown, Robinson or Brough.
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Pretty much agree with this.

Look at Huddersfield and you see a team of good players, but no out and out stars.

The one area i think they are better than Saints is on the Wing, were both wingers have pace but also work well infield.

What encourages me with regard to Brown coming to Saints is that many of their players were seen as cast off journeymen players from other clubs, yet are now seen as very good players.

Greg Eden couldnt get a game at Castleford, yet looks like having enormous potential at fullback.
Mcgilvary was knocking about at championship level for Batley and Barrow
Scott Grix classic journeyman played for Doncaster,Halifax, leigh & widnes in the lower leagues before signing for Wakefield
Kevin Brown, once promising Wigan youngster who was discarded by them after struggling with form. found his feet at Huddersfield.
Danny Brough an enfant terrible, former york player who was then passed like a ticking bomb from Hull to castleford, and to Wakefield before finally settling at Huddersfield.
Luke Robinson another highly praised Wigan youngster who was discarded after allegedly upsetting some of the senior players there. Spent the next few years playing at Salford and a brief period at Castleford before making his mark at Huddersfield.
Keith Mason former wakefield player who went down under to try his luck, made a couple of appearances out there before being signed by Saints, whereupon he became a figure of ridicule by some of the fans. Very brief stint at Castleford before making a decent name for himself at Huddersfield.

There are a lot more i can go through, but i think people should be able to get the jist of things that Huddersfield are largely composed of decent players but few if any genuine stars. Its therefore no wonder that they have tended to come up short against the big guns.

Brown at Saints with a team that does possess some genuine big guns or potential big guns, should be able to get a lot more out of the side. Hopefully he will also be able to identify some promising but discarded talent elsewhere that we could then pick up cheaply and mold into good SL players. This is particularly true of the three quarters.
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 5:30 pm  
Shenton is not going to Hull KR but is in negotiations with Castleford.
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 5:39 pm  
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Shenton is not going to Hull KR but is in negotiations with Castleford.

is this like when you said there'd be a cup semi final at LP? :wink:
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 5:41 pm  
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is this like when you said there'd be a cup semi final at LP? :wink:


That was a complete guess :lol: but this one has some substance. :wink:
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sat May 19, 2012 6:14 pm  
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That was a complete guess :lol: but this one has some substance. :wink:



I wouldn't be too shocked , I dont think Cas ever wanted to lose him
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sun May 20, 2012 9:58 am  
Daily Star reported late last night!

"HULL KR have won the race to sign St Helens and England centre Michael Shenton for next season"

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... OK-for-KR/
Daily Star reported late last night!

"HULL KR have won the race to sign St Helens and England centre Michael Shenton for next season"

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... OK-for-KR/
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Re: Shenton to HKR : Sun May 20, 2012 11:21 am  
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Shenton is not going to Hull KR but is in negotiations with Castleford.

Not what i hear.

Cas have made him a large contract offer, But, Hull Kr have also made a decent offer. And i am told, He will accept the latter.
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