Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:37 pm  

St pete wrote:

Sargison looks quality and I aldi like the look of arundell.

Sarginson is OOC at the end of next year, will probably spark a bidding war.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:46 pm  

If you look at Browns record at Huddersfield he has not gone out shopping with a big cheque book. The biggest name he brought in was Brough, but did he not snaffle him from Wakey when they were in all kinds of trouble. So effectively got him on the cheap as Wakey needed the money.

At that point we still had Eastmond on the books, so there was no way we would have gone in for Brough.

But my point being that if you ask Huddersfield what he has done , he has took their players, that were no great names and took a year concentrating them on defense, before then working on other aspects of the game. I can't see us signing any big name players before he gets here, you have to look at our current contracts. In 2013 we have 7 big names up for renewal. By that point Brown will know if he has moved them on and if they can play his way.

If we are going to sign anyone for next year it maybe that missing prop.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:18 pm  

[quote="bewareshadows"]If you look at Browns record at Huddersfield he has not gone out shopping with a big cheque book. The biggest name he brought in was Brough, but did he not snaffle him from Wakey when they were in all kinds of trouble. So effectively got him on the cheap as Wakey needed the money.

At that point we still had Eastmond on the books, so there was no way we would have gone in for Brough.

But my point being that if you ask Huddersfield what he has done , he has took their players, that were no great names and took a year concentrating them on defense, before then working on other aspects of the game. I can't see us signing any big name players before he gets here, you have to look at our current contracts. In 2013 we have 7 big names up for renewal. By that point Brown will know if he has moved them on and if they can play his way.

If we are going to sign anyone for next year it maybe that missing prop.[/
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Brett Hodgson, Danny brough, Luke o'donnel, David falalongo (sp), David faiumu (sp) are all big signings plus they had Todd carney until he couldn't get a visa.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:21 pm  

Hudds have spent as and when required but NB being able to get the best out of certain players means they've not had to go mad with the big names. He seems to know exactly what will work and what won't and the majority of his signings seem to be on the mark. Given some of our rather questionable signings over the years it'll be interesting to see who he does bring in if anybody.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:25 pm  

It's more the Greg Eden, Michael Lawrence, Leroy Cudjoe types I'd want. Someone in talent scouting at Huddersfield is doing a wonderful job.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:29 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

If you look at Browns record at Huddersfield he has not gone out shopping with a big cheque book. The biggest name he brought in was Brough, but did he not snaffle him from Wakey when they were in all kinds of trouble. So effectively got him on the cheap as Wakey needed the money.

At that point we still had Eastmond on the books, so there was no way we would have gone in for Brough.

But my point being that if you ask Huddersfield what he has done , he has took their players, that were no great names and took a year concentrating them on defense, before then working on other aspects of the game. I can't see us signing any big name players before he gets here, you have to look at our current contracts. In 2013 we have 7 big names up for renewal. By that point Brown will know if he has moved them on and if they can play his way.

If we are going to sign anyone for next year it maybe that missing prop.

One thing he has had at Hudds is time. We have to accept that if he is going to bring his methods to Saints, it may take time also, and not produce instant results. There may well be some players who don't like the new regime, and will have to be moved on.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:59 pm  

good post i agree, he wont change things overnight, new man new club new ideas, he must be given a fair chance, well thats what i think.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:30 pm  

It's all very well saying he needs to sign this player and that player, but we may not have quota space to do it, we may not have cap space to do it and we there may not be the quality available elsewhere. Having looked at the OOC threads, there isn't a great deal of quality available, certainly in this country anyway.

For me he needs to create a culture of winning, give us a ruthless streak and produce more consistency amongst the group of players he has to work with. That works both offensively and defensively. A good coach is able to get that extra bit of quality out of players and I'm hopeful Brown can do that with an already good set of players who have success embedded in them. Sure we may not have won trophies in recent years, but this club expects success and we need Brown to lead from the front to get the players expressing themselves in the Saints way whilst encompassing that winning mentality. Daniel Anderson embraced it as did Millward and hopefully Brown can too.

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:41 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

It's all very well saying he needs to sign this player and that player, but we may not have quota space to do it, we may not have cap space to do it and we there may not be the quality available elsewhere. Having looked at the OOC threads, there isn't a great deal of quality available, certainly in this country anyway.

For me he needs to create a culture of winning, give us a ruthless streak and produce more consistency amongst the group of players he has to work with. That works both offensively and defensively. A good coach is able to get that extra bit of quality out of players and I'm hopeful Brown can do that with an already good set of players who have success embedded in them. Sure we may not have won trophies in recent years, but this club expects success and we need Brown to lead from the front to get the players expressing themselves in the Saints way whilst encompassing that winning mentality. Daniel Anderson embraced it as did Millward and hopefully Brown can too.

Difference for millward and Anderson was that they took over a successful, confident side. The chances are that brown will inherit a side that hasn't won a trophy for six years or so, and certainly doesn't have a winning mentality or never say die attitude

Re: Nathan Brown's list of priorities : Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:45 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Difference for millward and Anderson was that they took over a successful, confident side. The chances are that brown will inherit a side that hasn't won a trophy for six years or so, and certainly doesn't have a winning mentality or never say die attitude

Both coaches may have had better quality players to work with but we were a mess when Hanley was in charge in early 2000. We got smashed by Melbourne and again by Bradford and had a disruptive influence in Trindall in our side. Millward turned it around quickly because he instilled confidence into the players and had a winning attitude. We have plenty of good players here and Brown will have some good players to work with. Nobody predicted Maguire would win the title at Wigan in his 1st season after they finished 6th the year before and got knocked out of two Semi Finals but he did. The best coaches are able to get that little bit extra from good players and thats the job Brown has.