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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:37 pm  
Duke Eddington wrote:
At one point the caption on Sky said that Hohaia had made 52 tackles and he made several more after that. If Roby had made that many we would all be going on about him being a machine.

Hohaia did the same last week. It's not his defence that is a problem. In fact, the team's defence is good (bar against kicks, but that's been a problem at Saints for years). It's in attack that we are hopeless.

We were the same last season but with Robes and Jammer on board we could still pull off wins, although with a number of losses and draws in there too. I think we were about seventh in the table this time last year.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:50 pm  
Top coach just needs time.All will come good. :thumb:
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:52 pm  
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Top coach just needs time.All will come good. :thumb:



Is that a serious post or you taking pi$$?
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:52 pm  
Duke Eddington wrote:
At one point I'm sure the caption on Sky said that Hohaia had made 52 tackles and he made several more after that. If Roby had made that many we would all be going on about him being a machine.


I'd like to see his missed tackle and penalty count too though. There was one passage of play in the second half where he let Ben Jefferies waltz through a non-existent gap next to him, then threw a forward pass to cost us possession then conceded two penalties in a row for high shots.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:02 pm  
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I'd like to see his missed tackle and penalty count too though. There was one passage of play in the second half where he let Ben Jefferies waltz through a non-existent gap next to him, then threw a forward pass to cost us possession then conceded two penalties in a row for high shots.



Fair enough but, I think the 2 high shots he got penalised for were harsh decisions. Silverwood seemed to give a few penalties for high shots which, in my view, were not.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:04 pm  
After tonight it looks bleak, but even so I don't think a sacking is in order just yet.

Perry, Laffranchi, Puletua need to get a grip and lead from the front - Lomax/Wheeler, Gaskell, Hohahia, Wilkin need to work out how to create an attack and feed Meli and Shenton.

Certain players should be threatened with the sack if they don't pull their fingers out. If the coach can't sort them out over the next few weeks, he should answer for that.

Foster can't play against Leeds, Wolves and Pies. We'd be better with Clough or Dixon on the wing.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:12 pm  
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You're playing the man, not the ball, Muggers.

I don't post much these days, but that performance got me out of my bath-chair. It was unacceptably bad. In fact, it was terrible. There's a very good chance we're looking at a run of 8 games without a win. While I could swallow 3 losses to Wigan, Wire and Leeds, the Saints squad is better on paper than Hull, Hull KR, Catalans and certainly Bradford. In fact, on paper, we're better than Huddersfield, but on the pitch they are light years ahead.


The performance WAS bad. For two weeks I've been texting friends saying we've reverted to the days of Eric Hughes. But bad as things are we need to retain some perspective. I know I'm as guilty as anyone so this is somewhat ironic. I guess it's part of - eventually - growing up.

Hohaia doesn't deserve anything like the stick he's getting. The guy has barely had time to settle in and we know from experience it sometimes takes anywhere up to 12 months for that to happen (which it did with Talau). Wheeler, Gaskell and Foster are similarly taking more than their fair share. Wheeler is older, but injuries have set his career back by at least sixteen months. Gaskell hasn't physically matured and Foster looks mentally shot.

If we are to point the finger of blame at players we should look no further than the experienced pros who have badly let the side down. Wilkin has really, really let us down. He is the obvious replacement as leader and go-to guy in times of strife and so far he's been completely anonymous. Puletua looks physically gone. Wellens - every attacking move ends with him etc. etc.

Of course, Royce deserves some stick. But if he's culpable then McManus must be also. After all, he's presided over player selection these past few years with some absolutely awful decisions (Meli, Gardner - even Wellens).
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:20 pm  
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You can't actually fault anything I've posted though can you? :lol:

What Hohaia is could be determined by anyone who has watched him during his career.


Which you haven't.

He's a willing player who's diminutive size makes him a worry amongst tired players or close to the line. He's been a utility player throughout his career, he's no halfback and was signed as one. I'm right on Hohaia, Jon Wells picked up on how poor his work at hooker is on the Sky coverage too, but I suppose he's a crying lunkhead too?


You're certainly "right" in the Charlie Sheen sense of being right i.e. endlessly repeating your "rightness" until someone crazy enough agrees with you or says the same purely to shut you up.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:33 pm  
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After tonight it looks bleak, but even so I don't think a sacking is in order just yet.

Perry, Laffranchi, Puletua need to get a grip and lead from the front - Lomax/Wheeler, Gaskell, Hohahia, Wilkin need to work out how to create an attack and feed Meli and Shenton.

Certain players should be threatened with the sack if they don't pull their fingers out. If the coach can't sort them out over the next few weeks, he should answer for that.

Foster can't play against Leeds, Wolves and Pies. We'd be better with Clough or Dixon on the wing.



I thought Laffranchi had a half decent game tonight. Granted, his best work came running out wide like a second rower, which he is.
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Re: Royce Out ! : Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:37 pm  
Mugwump wrote:
Which you haven't.

You're certainly "right" in the Charlie Sheen sense of being right i.e. endlessly repeating your "rightness" until someone crazy enough agrees with you or says the same purely to shut you up.


I take it you happy with this seasons performances?

Do you think it was correct to sign a fullback on as a replacement for a scrum half and the fullback ain't played in the halves for about 10 years?

Do you think it was correct to replace one of the best props in the world with a backrow who'd had next to no experince at prop?

Do you think it's a good idea to play 16 v 17 most weeks?

Do you think we looked well coached?

Do you think only playing one practice game was a good idea when trying a new combination of two fullbacks in the halves?

Do you think it's good that we rotate are wingers most weeks?

Do you agree that when most teams was slugging out in a long tough preseason that Royce had us resting at home?

Do you think it's great that we have lost more games at LP than we've won?
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