Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:42 pm  

St pete wrote:

Good recruitment or not, do you not think the players on the field was good enough to beat that Wakey?

Obviously not

Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:34 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Obviously not

I think youve missed the point of last few posts. If you expected Wakey to beat saints then your seriously deluded. I'm pretty sure you wouid have put your house on saints if had to.

Not taking anything away from Wakey. I've not seen the game as I had something on but you won it is what it is. You was obviously the better team on the day. Great win for Wakey.

Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:08 pm  

St pete wrote:

I think youve missed the point of last few posts. If you expected Wakey to beat saints then your seriously deluded. I'm pretty sure you wouid have put your house on saints if had to.

Not taking anything away from Wakey. I've not seen the game as I had something on but you won it is what it is. You was obviously the better team on the day. Great win for Wakey.

Can't say I expected to win , thought it would be close either way. Probably more to do with you not being that good anymore as much as us improving

Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:53 pm  

infamous grouse wrote:

It certainly looks like we'll be struggling to avoid the middle eights.

Looking through the fixtures, on current form, it's difficult to see any away wins and only 3 or 4 hone wins.

As the pressure grows players get more desperate and it can easily become a downward spiral.

It's not how you start it is how you finish, remember last season when you just came up short of going to the GF?

Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:54 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Congratulations to Wakefield, thoroughly deserved to win tonight. However they've played that well at our place for years and rarely won. We were just as bad as we could get tonight. The conditions did have something to do with it and the video referee decision that won it for them was charitable to say the least, but if the club accepts that performance, we may as well fold.

Cunningham is a joke, a complete farce in a role he wasn't qualified for. He's now well into his third year with us and after two years blaming the players for the lack of success, he went into this season claiming it to be his team finally. Yet we've witnessed three of the most flaccid, turgid performances from a Saints side ever. Tonight was put into such sharp focus by the comparison to Castleford last night. In similar conditions they were going the length of the field, offloading at will, being creative, never accepting mediocrity and putting everything into both attack and defense. We just rinse and repeat the same failed sets, with the few moments of off the cuff rugby being scrubbed out by laughably poor execution.

Sure the players need to accept responsibility as well, but the mentality and approach a team has is down to the coach. We just don't have any character as a side, we're not aggressive in defense, we're not creative and there is no urgency. What is it he's telling them to do?

Serious question, if Cunningham stays, will we have a similar season to Leeds last year? Skirting with relegation and eventually finishing bottom 4?

The VF got it spot-on.

Re: Over to you Eamonn... : Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:41 pm  

[quote="St pete"]The whole playing staff need to take responsibility and not just KC. Without be disrespectful to Wakey but that Saints team should beat them even without a coach.

I couldn't go the game last night (thank god) and didn't see it on sky either but it's totally unacceptable. We are not starting well at all but when I see the starting 13 I didn't expect us to either.

Amor is a starting prop for sure. LMS should start at second row as peyroux isn't good enough for the 19 never mind the 13.

For me, Jon Wilkin has to play 7 until Smith is back. Nothing against young Richardson but he's not experienced enough to lead us around the park and fages is a individual player and not a organising halfback. If Smith was playing with Richardson then we'd need better as Smith would still lead us around the park but Richardson isn't ready to do thst yet and Fages can't.[/quote]

The whole playing staff are the responsibility of the head coach

Who selected the team?

Who Picked Peyroux?

Wilkin in effect is playing the scrum half role now.

KC has had his chance and has proved he is not up the task.

Also I can't see Smith improving this lot with the game plan KC employs.