Re: Lomax flops for England : Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:45 pm  

Lomax did ok sarginson should not put on an England top for rest of the tournament.

He only won gf in that position due to Tompkins being injured and late season form. Physically stronger than shaul and ratch which was needed against nz and will be needed against Australia.

We lost the game by a fine margin a.d that summed the game up, we had opportunities but did not capitalise on them. I feel not bringing Clark on in the first was a mistake and don't think he will make it against Australia.


We competed in a tightly contested international game that was tense and could have gone either way. I enjoyed it would have preferred to have won but was a good tough game

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:08 am  

Idiots like this really pi$$ me off!

The adversity lomax has gone through just to be back on the pitch playing rugby at all is a massive achievement in its self but to be playing for his country is special.

He did ok IMHO. Didn't do great but did ok. I thought he was really good against France last week playing as 3rd pivot and creating on the edges.

He should have made the tackle for the kiwis try.

Regarding Sargison, I don't know how he's even in the squad. His defence is legendry for being awful and his winger most think he's got glue on his hands as he just won't/can't pass. He's got a good step tho I'll give him that.

I'd keep lomax fullback and put percy in the centre. We need the class of percy who's a proper centre, he can beat men, he can defend, he's fast and can feed his winger.

I was going to cancel premier sports but when I heard dan Sargison had signed for Gold Coast I'm keeping it, it will be pure comedy gold.

Also, I'd pick lomax over Sam Tomkins based on last seasons form as he looks a average player these days. I'd put him behind hardaker, lomax and shaul now.

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:31 am  

I really like Lomax, and I accept all that he has had to go through, but we are talking about England and an elite team, that missed tackle made him look like a schoolboy and is not acceptable, the French game was a warm up and nothing else after the scored first, perhaps it was a mistake not to select Jamie Shaul. As much as Lomax has gone through a lot, so has Sargenson this season, many players would have been out for the season by now, so lets not start knocking him just for the sake of it, he made errors yes.

I fear against Australia as they will be in their stride by then!

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:05 am  

as I stated earlier lomax did ok, but against top class teams you need a line breaker someone with the x factor, Shaul has that and pace to burn, ive watched him all year and for me he should have been given a chance, why Taylor isn't in the 17 goodness knows, as for lomax well done to the kid on coming back from those injuries

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:32 pm  

Shaul has nothing like the vision or passing game Lomax has. On at least three occasions the ball out the back to Lomax was on yesterday & a short flat ball was thrown instead. You need a third pivot in international rugby league especially with the quality in the halves we're currently producing in this country at the moment

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:28 pm  

I reckon Bennett will go with Sarginson at full back. Percival left centre and Williams scrum half.
Farrell may be brought in but I'm not too sure who'd make way.

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:29 pm  

hull2524 wrote:

as I stated earlier lomax did ok, but against top class teams you need a line breaker someone with the x factor, Shaul has that and pace to burn, ive watched him all year and for me he should have been given a chance, why Taylor isn't in the 17 goodness knows, as for lomax well done to the kid on coming back from those injuries

The England backline has a very unstable look about it, full back+centre+standoff just not experienced at international level. Lomax didn't make all that many mistakes and he didn't get many opportunities either. Also if Widdop keeps getting selected then you need an extra pivot at full back.

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:56 pm  

Lomax is unlucky not to have an assist to his name. On 19 mins when we are attacking their line he hits McGillvary with a good cut out pass and with the Kiwi defence stretched and McGillvary 8m out and with about 5/6m away from the sideline he didn't aim for the corner post like he should've done and instead straightened up and ran towards the defender and got caught.

McGillvary finishes that and people are complimenting Lomax for setting it up.

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:58 pm  

The Chief wrote:

Sarginson at full back, are you having a laugh, he was the worst player on the field and should never have been selected in the first place

this is correct..........

Re: Lomax flops for England : Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:43 pm  

jaybs wrote:

I really like Lomax, and I accept all that he has had to go through, but we are talking about England and an elite team, that missed tackle made him look like a schoolboy and is not acceptable, the French game was a warm up and nothing else after the scored first, perhaps it was a mistake not to select Jamie Shaul. As much as Lomax has gone through a lot, so has Sargenson this season, many players would have been out for the season by now, so lets not start knocking him just for the sake of it, he made errors yes.

I fear against Australia as they will be in their stride by then!

The interception pass by widdop was school boy standard, so do we drop him too ?

One of the greatest coaches of all time selected lomax, so I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing .