Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:01 pm  

I bet KC doing a rain dance

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:37 pm  

Only listened to it on the radio, sounded as though Luke Thompson had a good game and took the ball up well, Widnes on the other hand seemed to be having a knockonathon.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:40 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Only listened to it on the radio, sounded as though Luke Thompson had a good game and took the ball up well, Widnes on the other hand seemed to be having a knockonathon.

Thompson was really good today.

Widnes was dire. They dropped the ball all afternoon. We was poor again and sky commenting on our "ugly" style of play but it's a good win.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:45 pm  

On the plus side, KC thought both the edges and the middles were great today.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:50 pm  

We had 80% completion rate today which is very good considering we had tough game on Friday but yet again we was poor wirh the ball.

I'm beginning to think it's the only way we can play. We don't have the quality to play expansive rugby so maybe KC is playing to our strengths.

Widnes would have had 60 on them by a good attacking team today.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:05 pm  

St pete wrote:

We had 80% completion rate today which is very good considering we had tough game on Friday but yet again we was poor wirh the ball.

I'm beginning to think it's the only way we can play. We don't have the quality to play expansive rugby so maybe KC is playing to our strengths.

Widnes would have had 60 on them by a good attacking team today.

It's getting chicken and egg now - are the players not good enough and thus this is why we're playing this way, or are we playing this way and it makes a lot of players look not good enough?

I think on the whole, the team is good enough, and with a settled spine they may just start to look better. There's no doubt we look better with Theo at 6, and with some game time under his belt, and some threat returned to the centres, we might start to look better.

Good performances from Thompson, Walmsley, Amor, Savelio and Walsh today

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:11 pm  

Widnes handed us the game with so many errors, still you can only play what's infront of you

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:13 pm  

Dreadful performance by Widnes. Knock ons, silly penalties etc. Our forwards looked very fresh in comparison but obviously still had plenty of juice leftover in the tank from Friday's effort.

The play the ball was much faster, there was urgency, Walsh and Fages asked plenty of questions. They all put a shift in so can't fault them. Although we lost the 2nd half.

I think Widnes have every right to feel aggrieved by the 'No Try' decision at the end.

Anyone know how bad Makinson's injury is? I'm guessing Dawson will be on that wing next game with Turner back to centre.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:16 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

It's getting chicken and egg now - are the players not good enough and thus this is why we're playing this way, or are we playing this way and it makes a lot of players look not good enough?

I think on the whole, the team is good enough, and with a settled spine they may just start to look better. There's no doubt we look better with Theo at 6, and with some game time under his belt, and some threat returned to the centres, we might start to look better.

Good performances from Thompson, Walmsley, Amor, Savelio and Walsh today

I personally don't think the players are good enough. Look at good friday, we spent the first 20 mins on Wigan line and created nothing and Wigan went straight up our end and scored.

Widnes today was there to be hammered. We spent long periods on there line agsin and only got 3 tries.

Imo we have to play boring "arm wrestle" rugby as that's ate we are capable of. Sky are saying we play "ugly" now which is a big drop from the ex entertainers of super league.

We have to win games so imo we have to play the style KC has brought in which is completion and hope we can get on there line and barge over.

It's not the style I want to see but KC is judged on results and if he gets results then he keeps his job. If thst style will keep the crowds flocking in is another thing.

Re: Saints Squad away at Widnes : Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:24 pm  

St pete wrote:

I personally don't think the players are good enough. Look at good friday, we spent the first 20 mins on Wigan line and created nothing and Wigan went straight up our end and scored.

Widnes today was there to be hammered. We spent long periods on there line agsin and only got 3 tries.

Imo we have to play boring "arm wrestle" rugby as that's ate we are capable of. Sky are saying we play "ugly" now which is a big drop from the ex entertainers of super league.

We have to win games so imo we have to play the style KC has brought in which is completion and hope we can get on there line and barge over.

It's not the style I want to see but KC is judged on results and if he gets results then he keeps his job. If thst style will keep the crowds flocking in is another thing.

We can do it, we saw Wilkin ghost through in the first 20 on good Friday, LMS today etc, we just don't run those lines often enough to create space on the outside. Whether they don't run those lines because they're not good enough or whether KC is actively encouraging it not to happen I don't know. Admittedly, when it does get outside in space we see things like Dawson's forward pass today, but it just doesn't happen often enough.

We're putting ourselves in a position to attack often enough, we just can't break down the last line - to me it's all about the structure of those sets, and that all comes down to coaching.