Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:33 pm  

I thought the attacking shape was MUCH better actually and I actually thought Walsh played better. Bringing an extra pivot helped as I thought this free'd up Walsh and Burns, but I don't think turner is the right person for that role. His passing game isn't good enough Imo and he should go back to his centre role where he has been excellent this season. Jon Wilkin anyone?

Although our shape was better we panicked massively and it looked like we wanted, or was trying to, score on every play. You only have to watch the period before half time and we bombed chance after chance because we panicked. I was disappointed with burns and Walsh here as they should have taken control. I think that comes down to confidence tho and Cunningham has completely squeezed that out of the players imp.

Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:38 pm  

The crazy thing is we seem to go from kicking early in our sets for touch (which I still think is a good idea - provided we do the tackling) - to not kicking at all (often getting caught with a second-row carrying the ball on fifth tackle).

There's just no in-between.

Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:42 pm  

I should add - there was a massive difference between the two sides in terms of movement off the ball.

IMO, one of the biggest measures of team spirit is how hard players are working creating space for each other. Tonight we were lucky if we managed to inject one dummy runner into the line.

Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:54 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

The crazy thing is we seem to go from kicking early in our sets for touch (which I still think is a good idea - provided we do the tackling) - to not kicking at all (often getting caught with a second-row carrying the ball on fifth tackle).

There's just no in-between.

I put that down to poor coaching.

Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:22 pm  

I thought KC's comments were a bit pathetic given we were just outplayed - blaming decisions again.

The forwards were OK tonight but in defence we got the numbers wrong quite a few times. For a change out right looked weak with a clearly unfit TM.

On two occasions Percy makes a great tackle and they play the ball fast and go to their left which should have been covered - bleedin' obvious when your centre is out the line - by Burns or Sav but no TM gets sucked in. That's down to training over and over again; pretty basic stuff.

The irony is, it would probably have won the game last week, but tonight the attack was tepid and the goal line defence was awful.
No way do we deserve to be anywhere near the GF.

Re: KC post match interview : Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:33 pm  

And this.......

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If anything, the effort across the board was too good because they tried to force things instead of being patient and trying to build pressure.

totally deluded/

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:47 am  

wirefox wrote:

I put that down to poor coaching.

Ssshh you can't say that on here. He's dong fine. No really, he is.

We may beat Wire at home if we're lucky.

So in a season we have gone from a team who won the Grand Final with 'half a team' and one who demonstrated sheer grit, determination and a will to win against all odds.

This year with largely the same group of players we will be lucky to finish in the p four and have played the most sterile, boring and unimaginative rugby I have seen since the Murphy days, perhaps only with a brief sojourn under Simmons.

People will keep making excuses for him but why not. It's all he does week after week.

Nothing to do with the coach though. Nope. Can't be.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:35 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Slightly more effort this week, but still the old one man rugby followed by predictable dumb plays. Turner looks a bit messed up now, bit late now in the season to try and make him into a loose forward should have started the game at centre where I reckon he would have had more chance of scoring than Jones.

Quinlan looking like a one trick pony now and is probably one of the worse defensive full backs we've ever had.

Don't know where KC goes from here, the players are not playing for him and our game tactics are just not up to Super 8's standard. The club needed to fix quite a few issues tonight but they have failed miserably and doesn't look good for the remaining games.

I've been saying this regarding Quinlan since the 3rd game he played. Massivley out of position, can't tackle, awful kick returns and avoids contact like the plague.

Imo HES on of the worst fullbacks ive seen in a saints shirt.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:52 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Personally I think McDonnell is a better full-back than Quinlan. So I'd add him.

And we might as well add Walsh to the list - because there is just no comparison between him and the Luke Walsh who was tearing it up before injury.

Quinlan isn't giving us an awful lot. And niether are our halves. You just can't afford to have three of the four most influential positions in the game not functioning.

Wilkin returning (hopefully for Walsh) will give us more impetus. After all, Burns and Wilkin have played well together this season.

But even so, it's a tough ask if Quinlan's doing what he was tonight.

We did warn you that Burns was not the player you all thought he was. Most on here thought it was just sour grapes on our part. Now you know. Thanks for the signing on fee.

Re: KC post match interview : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:04 am  

Mugwump wrote:

IMO, one of the biggest measures of team spirit is how hard players are working creating space for each other. Tonight we were lucky if we managed to inject one dummy runner into the line.

LMS was playing dummy runner for most of the game, we were camped out on the Giants for loads of sets. LMS was running from deep very fast with momentum, it would have been far easier to actually give him the ball. Greenwood did some dummy runs as well.

The annoying thing it was so obvious that the Giants knew what was coming and just watched the ball coming out of hand.