Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:59 pm  

Disgraceful to see. What was worse though, in my opinion, was the way he ran out from the defensive line to lay down in front of the sticks feigning cramp, when Cas forced the drop out a couple of minutes earlier. Absolutely shameful and lost a lot of respect from me as a result.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:01 pm  

Allez wrote:

He'll play again next week without any redress as he's clearly in Moon Head's good boys club. One of his 'middles'.

He epitomises everything about us that's bad - ill disciplined, no game management and he in particular just believes his own publicity far too much. If he was capable of thinking as hard as he runs then he'd be half decent. His footballer-escque cheating should earn him a suspension as there's no place for that in our game.

No doubt Cunningham will come out with some stupid clichéd remark to gloss over one of the worst second halves of a game I have ever seen us take part in. Then pick the same team bar the injuries next week. Nice one KC.

It's not just LMS though. Roby was appalling tonight, easily his worst game ever. His distribution was horrific, dropping off tackles, kicking out on the full, the knock on under their sticks that cost us the chance of a shot at winning. Percival, as good as he did throughout the game, really didn't need to give that penalty away.

Cas are a really strong side, I'm never confident going there. Grant Millington was the best forward on the field tonight by a mile, what a player he is. Gale had a good game and Roberts, Solomona and Carney give them a lot of threat. As bad as we were tonight, they weren't great either, making some horrendous mistakes themselves and coming up with some awful defensive reads. Had the ref not allowed the touch judge to take over reffing the game briefly, Cas would have lost and I'm sure they would still be in there now getting the first few layers of skin ripped off by the fury coming from Powell.

Anyone else sick of the two run away interception/rubbish-kick returns we concede per game? Burns again the main culprit. Adam Swift had an awful time tonight. He can't catch, bombing a try and costing us defensively. He looked like bambi tonight and the horrible head knock he recevied was the result of falling over into that tackle. Hope he's okay, but he needs time out of the first team.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:01 pm  

Cas fan here, I used to love LMS, he was a breath of fresh air to SL, A young Londoner who had done well and was enjoying his deserved success with Saints and playing with a smile on his face. Just my opinion but lately his success seems to have gone to his head and its effecting his game. Hope KC gives him a kick up the rear and gets him back to what he was.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:05 pm  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

Disgraceful to see. What was worse though, in my opinion, was the way he ran out from the defensive line to lay down in front of the sticks feigning cramp, when Cas forced the drop out a couple of minutes earlier. Absolutely shameful and lost a lot of respect from me as a result.

Bit OTT? Players ALWAYS do the knee drop on drop outs, it's been going on for decades and almost all sides do it when under pressure. LMS has clearly been told to do this by the coaching staff, he does it as blatantly as that all the time, even in games we're winning comfortably. It's not shameful, it's a loophole in the rules that they need to close. But how can they? What if a player really is injured? How do you tell?

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:16 pm  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

Cas fan here, I used to love LMS, he was a breath of fresh air to SL, A young Londoner who had done well and was enjoying his deserved success with Saints and playing with a smile on his face. Just my opinion but lately his success seems to have gone to his head and its effecting his game. Hope KC gives him a kick up the rear and gets him back to what he was.

Well done on the win tonight. Despite not being happy with the loss there's something very Saints-like about Cas and you are great to watch despite probably also not being at your best tonight. I wish we had a coach like yours - knows the game and, more importantly, can translate that knowledge and communicate it to his team effectively and turn it into a winning mentality. He's a bloke I admire a lot and appears to have a lot of integrity.

I agree with your comments on LMS - he's too much of it. His penalty count alone is reprehensible and feigning injury is as bad as I have seen. He should be ashamed to call himself a rugby player after that.

There's no way our coach will kick his backside however - KC doesn't do discipline on or off the field if you're in the 'in club'.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:17 pm  

I don't think it's over the top at all. I'm not used to seeing it and the fact that you say he does it all the time is a disgrace and tells me you're used to it so not as shocked by it.
It's blatant cheating and the only way you stop it is to make him leave the pitch for treatment (as in football). Let's see if he still does it all the time then.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:19 pm  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

I don't think it's over the top at all. I'm not used to seeing it and the fact that you say he does it all the time is a disgrace and tells me you're used to it so not as shocked by it.
It's blatant cheating and the only way you stop it is to make him leave the pitch for treatment (as in football). Let's see if he still does it all the time then.

You can't have watched many games if you aren't used to seeing players sit down on the 10 at drop goals or go down with 'cramp' when it comes to the final minutes. It needs cutting out, just not sure how you do it. What if a player really does get hurt?

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:20 pm  

Andy lynch was the best tonight. And I love millo. Thought saints really tired 2nd half. Which seemed unusual. Whereas we have looked class in the last 10 minutes of our last 3 games when close. Powell's tactics of bringing lynch millo and Massey on in the final quarter at once works a treat, again. Whereas didnt walmsley leave the field last 10?

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:28 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

Andy lynch was the best tonight. And I love millo. Thought saints really tired 2nd half. Which seemed unusual. Whereas we have looked class in the last 10 minutes of our last 3 games when close. Powell's tactics of bringing lynch millo and Massey on in the final quarter at once works a treat, again. Whereas didnt walmsley leave the field last 10?

Ssshh don't tell anyone the facts. KC doesn't want people to realise he played Greenwood on the wrong side despite his previously having been devastating on the other. Also he sneaked LMS back to prop, a position where even the local slug colony can see he is utterly useless in.

But please don't tell anyone that we left Amor and Walmsley on the bench for sustained periods despite them bossing it in the first 40. It's all a secret.

A secret that only our hero supercoach knows about. He's got a statue you know. That makes everything alright.

Re: LMS : Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:32 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

You can't have watched many games if you aren't used to seeing players sit down on the 10 at drop goals or go down with 'cramp' when it comes to the final minutes. It needs cutting out, just not sure how you do it. What if a player really does get hurt?

It's nothing to do with how many games I've watched.
My gripe is that LMS ran out of the defensive line after the ball was dead to lay down in an area that he knew would prevent the drop out from being taken. I wouldn't have minded so much if he laid down where was and would've given him the benefit of the doubt. What he did makes him and saints look small time in my opinion.