Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:44 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

Really? McDonnell is solid ala Wellens but Lomax is in a different league imo.

Lomax has always struggled with positional awareness in defence where Mr "Radar" Wellens was the best around. McDonnell is currently doing a lot of good things especially in support play but has not really been tested properly in defence. Lomax was good 2 seasons ago but injuries are slowing him down and he now needs to prove himself on the durability front.
If Lomax became available for selection today I think McDonnell would still keep the full back shirt.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:09 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Lomax has always struggled with positional awareness in defence where Mr "Radar" Wellens was the best around. McDonnell is currently doing a lot of good things especially in support play but has not really been tested properly in defence. Lomax was good 2 seasons ago but injuries are slowing him down and he now needs to prove himself on the durability front.
If Lomax became available for selection today I think McDonnell would still keep the full back shirt.

Fully fit lomax is better than McDonnell every day of the week without shadow of a doubt.

I think you've firgotten just how good he was. If he gets to that standerd again we will have to wait and see but Lomax is 1000000% better

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:21 am  

St pete wrote:

Fully fit lomax is better than McDonnell every day of the week without shadow of a doubt.

I think you've firgotten just how good he was. If he gets to that standerd again we will have to wait and see but Lomax is 1000000% better

I think the question is will we see a fully fit Lomax again I hope so, we need to be cruel here we don,t want to see a player who only lasts 3 games. Mc Donnell has been offered a contract longer than expected, maybe the club are not sure if we are going to see the real Johnny Lomax, hopefully he can get the injury curse of his back.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:27 am  

Judder Man wrote:

I think the question is will we see a fully fit Lomax again I hope so, we need to be cruel here we don,t want to see a player who only lasts 3 games. Mc Donnell has been offered a contract longer than expected, maybe the club are not sure if we are going to see the real Johnny Lomax, hopefully he can get the injury curse of his back.

We offered McDonnell a deal to the end of the season which he turned down. He wanted more money and next season if he was to up sticks again. Saints refused and left it at that. When more injuries cropped up to the likes of Dawson, wello and percy, we was thin on the ground and gave Shannon what he wanted when lance retired.

So it's got nothing to do with us not thinking lomax won't be back, it's about us having to many injuries in the fullback spot.

Also, I don't think lomax will be fit for the start of next season either.


Nothing agsinst Shannon tho, he's looking pretty decent. His support play is very good.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:29 am  

He's in good form and we probably did underestimate him when he came. Last time he didn't really get much of a shot because of his injury.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:32 am  

It's worth remembering that McDonnell was once Hull's marquee signing. They were paying him a fair wedge, IIRC. Just bad luck he picked up an injury.

If you look online there's a decent highlights reel of his from a couple of years ago. His footwork and pace were always very good - even if he did have a tendency to occasionally try to sidestep an opponent four times at once.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:43 am  

Mugwump wrote:

It's worth remembering that McDonnell was once Hull's marquee signing. They were paying him a fair wedge, IIRC. Just bad luck he picked up an injury.

If you look online there's a decent highlights reel of his from a couple of years ago. His footwork and pace were always very good - even if he did have a tendency to occasionally try to sidestep an opponent four times at once.

To be honest that says more about Hull than it does about McDonnell.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:56 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

To be honest that says more about Hull than it does about McDonnell.

Actually, I think it says more about your inability to stop him.

Re: McDonnell : Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:27 pm  

McDonnell has never let us down, he runs great support lines and will score plenty of tries. He's absolutely worth his place in the squad, but obviously I'd love to see wee Jonny back and fully fit

Re: McDonnell : Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:39 pm  

Lomax is better than McDonnell in all aspects IMO. McDonnell is a bit ropey defensively from what I've seen so far and whilst Lomax's positioning isn't as good as Wellens's was in his pomp (and who really expects it to be at this stage?) it's on par with McDonnell's and his one on one tackling is better than McDonnell's.

In an attacking sense Lomax is better with ball in hand and has a more evasive running style. As long as he gets fit again he'll be number 1.

Having said that, McDonnell has done a bloody good job coming in and his playing style is what we needed after Lomax's injury.