Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 1:44 am  

Mugwump wrote:

If he's good enough you can pretty much guarantee he'll get some game time. We desperately need additional options at hooker.

I can't say I see much of him as I don't live close enough to watch St.Helens any more, but when reading match reports his name always seem to be mentioned positively.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 5:48 am  

Mugwump wrote:

By the way - is Haggerty playing this year? Anyone know how he's doing?

Watch him on Dewsbury You Tube Channel he looks on the same level as Walmsley was before he signed for us? He scored a try against Hunslet in the CC 2 weeks ago.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 11:23 am  

Masoe, Wellens, Hohaia, Jones and Flanagan all out. McDonnell has already replaced Hohaia.

Judging by what KC has said in this week's presser, Charnock is being groomed as a back up / replacement for Roby and has the '9' skillset so I don't expect a signing there.

I'd therefore be looking at a prop and a fast winger as a priority and then perhaps a back rower / forward if we have some cap space after that.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 12:06 pm  

Is Tasi OOC this season?

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 12:16 pm  

The plan is for Matty Hagarty to join Saints squad like walmsley did starting next season. He's certainly got the size and once he has filled out even more in the gym, he will be another big prop to add to our pack. Hopefully he can live up to his potential.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 12:29 pm  

Who better for Charnock to learn from than KC and Roby? Good idea to nail him down and get him learning the ropes. How did he play on Friday, tries aside?

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 1:35 pm  

Rommel wrote:

Is Tasi OOC this season?

Yes

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 3:07 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

The thing about signing a centre - presumably to replace Turner - is the first and most obvious response the coaching team must get from management:

"Why do you want a centre when Turner is currently topping the try-scoring charts"?

Sure, it makes sense from a coaching perspective. Trading up for SKD is a no brainer. But a businessman's perspective is entirely different - and not altogether irrational, I might add.

A LOT depends on what we have in the next cohort of juniors moving up to the senior squad. I really can't answer this question so I'll allow others.

Why do you presume that it is obvious Turner will be replaced? Jones is on his way so surely it is a replacement for him that is required. I would like to see Wardle in the saints backline and as a previous poster said a winger with real pace.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 3:22 pm  

redex113 wrote:

Why do you presume that it is obvious Turner will be replaced?

I have no idea whether Turner is being replaced. What I'm saying is - if Saints are going after an expensive centre - it won't be to replace Percival. And since there are only two centres on the field - that kind of leaves only Turner.

Re: Who goes and who stays. : Wed May 06, 2015 4:48 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

Masoe, Wellens, Hohaia, Jones and Flanagan all out. McDonnell has already replaced Hohaia.

So based on the rumours the like for like is as follows...

Tasi for Masoe
McDonnell for Wellens (rather than Hohaia if we are honest)
Charnock for Hohaia (which I think was the plan before Hohaia retired early)

Jones and Flanagan have not been getting picked before Thommo, Greenwood and Vea, so they are not leaving gaps. Ashworth for me looks very Jones-esk.

So we are still in the position we are in now, where we have no cover on the wing and in the halves. However it is hard to know what young players are going to come through next year.

A sixth prop would be useful but is behind a half and winger in my eyes.