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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:00 am  
Time for Mr. Teflon to make a statement?

Saints have a big pack BUT the grounds are now drying out and that will suit the more athletic and quicker forwards/teams. Saints lack of pace and over reliance on that big pack will be a concern for Cunningham.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:01 am  
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The honeymoon period is over now for KC, he needs to take stock and make changes.
Makinson is not working at full back and is slower that Wello returning the ball, we should keep Lance there and return Makinson to the wing.
In the pack we are back to grab tackling allowing the opposition to offload and get the ball to the fringes.
KC should have seen we had no composure in attack and should have brought on Walsh after 15 mins, currently KC is learning by his mistakes but its costing us points.


I think he's doing the correct thing with Walsh. It was a horrific injury and couid easily ended a plsyers career. I wouodnt start him next week either and look to the wakey game for his first start.

It's not just physically coming back from a injury like that but it's 90% in your head. I've just come back from a broken ankle (nowhere near as serious as walsh) and I was out 4 month and it's constantly on my mind at the moment everytime I tackle, step off my right and even when stood in the tackle so I can imagine what walsh must be feeling.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:14 am  
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Our defence was shocking, as was ball retention. Do we even have a defence coach?


Our defence has saved us numerous times this season.

Last night it all came apart and the whole performance was similar to the Warrington home game from last season. Some amateur errors at times and defensively the effort just wasn't good enough. Leeds were too quick around the ruck and destroyed us on the edges. Full credit to them they did a job on us but we're much better than that. The 1st half was embarrassing and not befitting of this club.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:18 am  
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Our defence has saved us numerous times this season.

Last night it all came apart and the whole performance was similar to the Warrington home game from last season. Some amateur errors at times and defensively the effort just wasn't good enough. Leeds were too quick around the ruck and destroyed us on the edges. Full credit to them they did a job on us but we're much better than that. The 1st half was embarrassing and not befitting of this club.


We have been very suspect outwide all year but we've scrambled well and got back. Tommy made many cover tackles this year from clean breaks but we are little busted and tired so we ain't getting back how we was.

The edge defence is nothing short of woeful with basic one on one tackles being missed and poor decison making is costing us.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:15 am  
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I think he's doing the correct thing with Walsh. It was a horrific injury and couid easily ended a plsyers career. I wouodnt start him next week either and look to the wakey game for his first start.

It's not just physically coming back from a injury like that but it's 90% in your head. I've just come back from a broken ankle (nowhere near as serious as walsh) and I was out 4 month and it's constantly on my mind at the moment everytime I tackle, step off my right and even when stood in the tackle so I can imagine what walsh must be feeling.


I think I would start him next week, we,ve had quite a few games lately in the first 10 mins were we have been very sloppy in our attacking play, given the ball away in attack to the opposition and we,ve gone 6 points down and chasing the game.
Walsh would calm us down and give us better quality execution, once we control the game then Walsh could be benched for a spell.
I can understand KC way of thinking of keeping Wilkin at 7 at the start of an energized game, but yesterday was far too long for Walsh introduction, the game had gone especially with a high quality side like Leeds.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:07 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Time for Mr. Teflon to make a statement?

Saints have a big pack BUT the grounds are now drying out and that will suit the more athletic and quicker forwards/teams. Saints lack of pace and over reliance on that big pack will be a concern for Cunningham.


I said the same last night BUT the injuries to Greenwood & Vea, along with Wilkin playing in the halves & Josh Jones covering centre last night, are the missing mobile pack players. This means we effectively are playing with 6 props in the 17. You can get away with that against some teams but not against a Leeds team on a fast track.

Percival back at centre & a Walsh / Burns half back pairing will help that situation by freeing up Wilkin & Jones to return to the middle.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:17 am  
I'd like to go back to those innocent, hazy days were we weren't giving away 3 tries a game due to a kick being charged down or throwing a soft interception. Glory days.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:25 am  
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I'd like to go back to those innocent, hazy days were we weren't giving away 3 tries a game due to a kick being charged down or throwing a soft interception. Glory days.


I think I'd like to go back to those glory days when handing over the ball in broken play on the opposition's ten metre-line didn't result in a certain try, because we had people fast enough to chase down the runner.

If you look at the tries Hull KR scored against us, and last night Leeds, what you see is a team so lacking in speed that not only could we not catch the man who made the break, but we couldn't even close the gap over nearly a full pitch length, allowing the tries to go under the posts for easy kicks.

We have no speed, which means that if an opponent makes a break, even on their own tryline, after we give away the ball (ie, our fullback is in the attacking line rather than positioned deep), then they are going to score, because we have nobody with the pace to cover back. Fastest person we've got, I think, is Percival. Although we'll have to pray he's retained his pace after his injury.
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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:03 pm  
Best defence in the league going into last night's game.

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Re: KC Reaction : Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:23 pm  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Saints have a big pack BUT the grounds are now drying out and that will suit the more athletic and quicker forwards/teams. Saints lack of pace and over reliance on that big pack will be a concern for Cunningham.


I'm sorry - where did your express train attack finish in the league last season?
The Grand Final?

Must have been an awfully wet season. Damned weather is forever conspiring against you.

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