Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:52 pm  

...and 28 times more intelligent.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:53 pm  

And just think, no Hall or Briscoe in those backs either

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:56 pm  

I think that is called a lack of professionalism.

It has nothing to do with defence. We turned over the ball on 3 of our first 4 sets of possession with the ball. So basically we were giving the ball, possession and territory to Leeds.

It was clear we came out with an aim to out play their forwards and play it in their half. But that was undermined straight away by Wilkin, Flanagan and Swift. They gave them easy ball which because they are no jokers they made the most of. After that it was just exhibition stuff from Leeds whilst we ran around not knowing what to do being 18 - 0 down.

In terms of coaching Mcdermott has taken Kerion to school so far. He knows we drop our wingers back early, so they are spreading the ball to absolutely exploit those gaps.

We've not helped ourselves at all.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:57 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

It's all been sh*t.

We've made ground with the ball, and we've created some try-scoring opportunities. We've been unlucky that in two of those opportunities our final pass has led to a Leeds try. If those two passes stick that's an 18-22 point swing.

The defence has been extremely worrying, though. We're wilting on the edges every time we're challenged. Dreadful, and puts the WCC match in a different context.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:58 pm  

Could be in for a smashing here. Only hope is that Leeds decide not to bother in the second half.

Not going to claim it's down to certain individuals, but I'll bet Wilkin, Flanagan and Jones won't enjoy looking at the stats. But apart from Roby and Amor, nobody is going to want to watch this again afterwards.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:01 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

It has nothing to do with defence. We turned over the ball on 3 of our first 4 sets of possession with the ball. So basically we were giving the ball, possession and territory to Leeds.

It was clear we came out with an aim to out play their forwards and play it in their half. But that was undermined straight away by Wilkin, Flanagan and Swift. They gave them easy ball which because they are no jokers they made the most of. After that it was just exhibition stuff from Leeds whilst we ran around not knowing what to do being 18 - 0 down.

I disagree. Yes, our poor handling has put us under pressure. But that doesn't mean that you have to fold immediately. In that second Handley try there were three separate poor defensive reads in one play.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:02 pm  

Just been said at half time Thompson should have taken the penalty. Exactly what I mean by lack of professionalism. He left a 20 gap and 6 points go rather than cover his own mistake and just give away some yards.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:04 pm  

Dux wrote:

I disagree. Yes, our poor handling has put us under pressure. But that doesn't mean that you have to fold immediately. In that second Handley try there were three separate poor defensive reads in one play.

Yes there are defensive frailties. But they get exposed more with the more ball and good ball that the other side has. We can help limit poor defensive reads by keep hold of the ball more and controlling the game more.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:06 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Yes there are defensive frailties. But they get exposed more with the more ball and good ball that the other side has. We can help limit poor defensive reads by keep hold of the ball more and controlling the game more.

I wouldn't disagree with that.

Re: Leeds game : Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:10 pm  

And thats why Walsh should have been on after 20 mins