Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm  

Our 19:

John Bateman, Matt Bowen, Joe Burgess, Josh Charnley, Tony Clubb, Dom Crosby, Liam Farrell, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Blake Green, Jack Hughes, Michael McIlorum, Sean O'Loughlin, Eddy Pettybourne, Sam Powell, Dan Sarginson, Matty Smith, Scott Taylor, Joel Tomkins

Id expect the same 17 from the wire game

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:07 pm  

There is the risk of Swift being exposed in defense. However, with a larger pitch Swift will also have a lot more space to expose the Wigan wingers.

Personally if I was him, if you know your strengths and weaknesses I'd be wanting to give my opposite winger and centre plenty to think about, wear them out in defense.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:22 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

There is the risk of Swift being exposed in defense. However, with a larger pitch Swift will also have a lot more space to expose the Wigan wingers.

Personally if I was him, if you know your strengths and weaknesses I'd be wanting to give my opposite winger and centre plenty to think about, wear them out in defense.

Charnley isn't the best in defence either and neither is sargison.


I'd 100% play swift.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:27 pm  

Dux wrote:

It's a tricky one. Swift is more likely to be exposed by Wigan's threequarters, but overall he's clearly better than Dawson. One thing that he does well, despite being small, is making yards when carrying the ball in our own half, either from kicks or from dummy half on tackle 1 or 2. Getting our sets off to a good start is going to be massively important, and Dawson is completely useless in that respect. For me the benefits of picking Swift outweigh the drawbacks, and I'd be inclined to pick him ahead of Dawson, but it's a risk.

We have to pick swift. He's a danger with ball in hand and with the fact we've lost our two most attacking players in Walsh and Lomax so we need all the attack we can get. Matty has done well this year but he's not a patch on swift and I honestly believe swift would be playing in the play offs no matter what.

So for me, we have to pick swift as he's one of the very few who can beat a man In our backs.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:28 pm  

I'd have Swift any day, but especially on Saturday. We are not the most fluent and creative team at the moment and he gives us that extra flair and speed.

The 19 sort of confirms that Wheeler is going or is he injured again?

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:46 pm  

I could see us playing Dawson, if we had Walsh/Burns and Lomax. As our attacking threat would be great. Without them, we need to risk more.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:57 pm  

I'd be tempted with Dawson.

We are going to win this game through the middle, so we need to be as solid as possible out wide. I'm not confident that swift provides that.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:00 am  

Albion wrote:

I'd be tempted with Dawson.

We are going to win this game through the middle, so we need to be as solid as possible out wide. I'm not confident that swift provides that.

Its not like Dawson is a defensive rock though, and he offers alot less going forward

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:10 am  

Albion wrote:

I'd be tempted with Dawson.

We are going to win this game through the middle, so we need to be as solid as possible out wide. I'm not confident that swift provides that.

Dawson is poor in defence. He's poor under the high ball and doesn't beat a man on kick returns.

Swifty Is a good defender (does make wrong calls in defence), he's safe under the high ball and a big threat with the ball in hand.

I think wane and Wigan would be delighted to see Dawson on the wing instead of swift.

Re: Grand Final 19 man Squad : Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:27 am  

I think people are generally harsh on Dawson.