Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:33 pm  

There's a few things that I feel we must do well in order to win, slip on any of them and we will lose IMO:

1. Shut down O'Loughlin. Smash him hard and smash him early, if he gets his tail up, Wigan will win.
2. Kick early and chase hard, turn around their back 3. You can not give Bowen, Burgess and Charnley too much space in returning the ball. Allowing them to catch it on the fly will only end badly.
3. Do not let Blake Green show and go. He'll ghost through the line in the Second Row/Centre channel as he has done so many times before if we give him space.
4. Be AGGRESIVE. If we lose the collision in the middle it's game over. This also ties in with ensuring good line speed throughout the game.
5. Play error free rugby. If we turn the ball over in our own half like we did against Warrington at LP, they'll put a cricket score on us.

The final point which would help us massively but isn't a necessity to win:

6. Rile McIllorum. Get our forwards to rub their hands on his face, talk to him in the tackles and wind him up. Get him to lash out but don't retaliate, take a punch for the team and Wigan are a man down.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:11 pm  

There are other factors that might come into play from the pack.

Soliola and Manu there last chance to get a Grand Final Ring so they may raise there
game.
Wellens could wind back the clock for one final performance.
Walmsley and Amor will play big for this one.
Mose will not fear anyone in this game and play similar to the DW game.


Finally its Brown's last game and ALL the TEAM WILL PLAY FOR HIM.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:28 pm  

It's really all about aggression for me. I think we have to really play on the edge in this game. If we can unsettle and intimidate the Wigan pack then they won't be able to put their usual amount of pressure on us and other things - handling, decision making, kicking game etc. - should then be much easier to get right. As we all know, though, it's one thing saying it and another thing doing it. Wigan are seriously tough and are battle hardened after their recent encounters with Warrington. So we're going to have to come out practically foaming at the mouth if we're going to get the better of them. It might be a risky way to approach the game, but it's a risk we have to take, as if we allow Wigan to play in their usual manner then we don't stand a chance.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:45 pm  

Need to match the pies for line speed and aggression. Just can't see the Saints winning though, just hope it is not a humiliation.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:01 pm  

The biggest concern is we will be penalised in certain areas, too agressive and we get stung, also Wigoon are very good at peeling off slowly from the tackle we might not be as good in this technique and again will get stung for it.
For me good line speed in defence and a slightly deeper attack should disrupt Wigoons control of the game.
In Brown's words we need to PLAY CLEVER.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:56 pm  

We will struggle to score IMO as our attack is pretty average and Wigan defend well.

Their back three are devastating with the ball but I feel we can really hurt them with the high kicks. I'd bomb Bowen first chance we get and I'd tell our players to absolutely give him it. Let him know that when that ball goes up catch or drop he's getting smashed. I'd do same with Charnley and especially burgess. Just to let them know they getting it big time. Even if we give a pen away the first time it puts it in the head.

We can't afford to kick to them on the fly or poor kicks to ground as all three and score from anywhere.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:22 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

There's a few things that I feel we must do well in order to win, slip on any of them and we will lose IMO:

1. Shut down O'Loughlin. Smash him hard and smash him early, if he gets his tail up, Wigan will win.
2. Kick early and chase hard, turn around their back 3. You can not give Bowen, Burgess and Charnley too much space in returning the ball. Allowing them to catch it on the fly will only end badly.
3. Do not let Blake Green show and go. He'll ghost through the line in the Second Row/Centre channel as he has done so many times before if we give him space.
4. Be AGGRESIVE. If we lose the collision in the middle it's game over. This also ties in with ensuring good line speed throughout the game.
5. Play error free rugby. If we turn the ball over in our own half like we did against Warrington at LP, they'll put a cricket score on us.

The final point which would help us massively but isn't a necessity to win:

6. Rile McIllorum. Get our forwards to rub their hands on his face, talk to him in the tackles and wind him up. Get him to lash out but don't retaliate, take a punch for the team and Wigan are a man down.

Nathan Brown was really good at Huddersfield in sucking our forwards into an 'I'm bigger than you' playground fight. It knocked us off our game and gave them cheap field position and possession.

You guys did the same thing at Langtree Park last season when we gave penalty after penalty away and eventually had Green sin binned which won you the game. It even worked quite well at The DW this year in some ways.

I expect he will be trying to get Masoe and LMS to do the same thing this time around especially with the likes of Micky Mac and Pettybourne.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:25 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

There's a few things that I feel we must do well in order to win, slip on any of them and we will lose IMO:

1. Shut down O'Loughlin. Smash him hard and smash him early, if he gets his tail up, Wigan will win.
2. Kick early and chase hard, turn around their back 3. You can not give Bowen, Burgess and Charnley too much space in returning the ball. Allowing them to catch it on the fly will only end badly.
3. Do not let Blake Green show and go. He'll ghost through the line in the Second Row/Centre channel as he has done so many times before if we give him space.
4. Be AGGRESIVE. If we lose the collision in the middle it's game over. This also ties in with ensuring good line speed throughout the game.
5. Play error free rugby. If we turn the ball over in our own half like we did against Warrington at LP, they'll put a cricket score on us.

The final point which would help us massively but isn't a necessity to win:

6. Rile McIllorum. Get our forwards to rub their hands on his face, talk to him in the tackles and wind him up. Get him to lash out but don't retaliate, take a punch for the team and Wigan are a man down.

7. Don’t base your whole game on the opposition... play to your strengths

i do agree that we should be aggressive, suck them into an arm wrestle.

one thing that might be the difference is goal kicking which i think we are better than Wigan IMO

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:34 pm  

theblondebomber wrote:

7. Don’t base your whole game on the opposition... play to your strengths

Not necessarily, playing to your own strengths can sometimes also play to your oppositions.

Our best chance of winning is to shut down Wigan's strengths and expose their weaknesses. At the moment we have one strength, a big pack, that is it. The big pack does play into the points set out with aggressive defence and good line speed. If we play to a gameplan based around our game, rather than Wigan's, we will lose. In fact, I've never known a gameplan that doesn't heavily take into account the oppositions strengths and weaknesses, it's the whole point of a gameplan.

Re: I am truly confident about Saturday! : Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:32 pm  

Let's just go out and fist them!