Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:28 pm  

dubairl wrote:

:lol:

other than Wilkin and Wellens does any saints player know what it feels like to win a grand final? Shown today that you don't have the attitude of a trophy winning team, very much like Nathan Brown of Huddersfield. Just a complete demolishing job in the 2nd half even with 2 players injured early on.

Flash in the pan.

I think the school report for this would be 'must try harder'.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:29 pm  

CM Punk wrote:

Particularly against a pack that was running with 2 subs for over half the game.

Indeed. It was a very tough performance from your forwards.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:29 pm  

CM Punk wrote:

Particularly against a pack that was running with 2 subs for over half the game.

You did make up for it by having Silverwood though.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:35 pm  

saintcj wrote:

Not gonna worry too much yet
Saints have had a great start to the season and probably needed this loss with the last couple of performances.
Could have lost the last 2 games and need to show more steel.
Lance has impressed me and I never wanted to see him in the red v again after the friendly against Wigan.
Wheeler will certainly be lucky to get a look in now.
Forwards are worrying. Amor is immense but the other guys need to step up
LMS isn't looking great at the moment.

Sorry but these needing a loss stuff is nonsense. No loss is a good loss. LMS is good when the goings good, he's not the kind of forward you want in an arm wrestle.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:35 pm  

saintcj wrote:

Lance has impressed me and I never wanted to see him in the red v again after the friendly against Wigan.
Wheeler will certainly be lucky to get a look in now.

Yes, Lance has gone some way to winning me over. The way Jordan Turner has played over the last couple of weeks, though, I'd consider giving Wheeler a run at right centre.

saintcj wrote:

Forwards are worrying. Amor is immense but the other guys need to step up
LMS isn't looking great at the moment.

Agreed. LMS is unconvincing as a front line prop.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:37 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

You did make up for it by having Silverwood though.

Absolutely priceless!

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:49 pm  

pies-r-us wrote:

Absolutely priceless!

even after his reply to me

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:54 pm  

We had no go forward from the pack.
We stood off in defense waiting for the runners and didn't close down any second phase attack.
The backs looked painfully slow in possession.
The whole team looked lethargic.
All the luck went the pies way today.

That performance has been coming for weeks and we will just have to accept it, dust our selves off and think about Monday. All of a sudden that is a big game.

We need someone in the dressing room before each half to wind the players up as Wane does. They looked, to a man, that they wanted it more. That for me is not acceptable.

We were beaten by the better team on the day. we accept it and move on.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:59 pm  

Bottom line is that, as is normal in derbies, Wigan were much more aggressive than us, intimidated and dominated our pack from the start, and built a platform for their backs off that.

It truly pains me to say this, but I can't remember the last time a saints pack wasn't bullied and scared by the Wigan pack.

Only other point worth mentioning is that wane clearly, and correctly, identified turner as a defensive weakness. Both in terms of his tackling in space, and his Gardner-esque uselessness under a high ball. Turner needs to be dropped. Other teams will look to target him very week now.

Re: Game Thread : Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:09 pm  

Wigan was just to good for us today. No excuses from me about anything. Maybe the odd high shot etc but nothing IMO that would have changed the game.

Our defence was woeful. I said early in the season I feel our defence isn't as good as it should be and I got shot down. Do people still think it's good? I certainly don't!

Pre-season we spoke about how strong our pack is but I'm not so sure. We've been dominated the last 3 weeks. Today I was embarrassed at how soft our pack was. Wigan was very aggressive and physical and we was soft. If you take Amor out the front row and we struggle big time.

I'm not so sure the Mose, walmsley, Lms combo can work. Mose and big Alex are knackered after 15 mins, Lms isn't a front line prop so we depend on Amor to much. IMHO we need a prop brought in who is fit, agile and can do mins. It's clear how we struggle when Amor off the field or doesn't play.

To much emphasis on Walsh. When he goes quite, we go quite. That's not his fault, we can't expect him to play every set. Obviously we need a 6 but that's no big shock.

Some awful performances today but what does Matty Dawson offer? I'd rather have Ade back on the wing than him. Poor in defence and dead in a attack.