Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:45 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

strange still. Can't imagine wigan offering much cash with his record. Perhaps this could be why he's been left out of the team in recent weeks?

As i've said for a while, i fear him leaving Saints only to star for one of our great rivals.

Wonder if Rogues still thinks hes over rated?

Yes.

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:46 pm  

I'm not sure what you mean by his game management? If you mean his attitude to training then if that improves because of a move I think it's a poor reflection on our man management.
I think the lads simply injury prone and if he is then I can't see that changing wherever he goes. Just hope if it is true he doesn't come back to bite us.

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:51 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

Either it is true or a last desperate throw of the dice from Wheeler and his agent.

I predicted this in the off season, story circulated that another club was in for him,
with him being OCC. Suppose nobody would buy interest from Cronulla
twice in a row.

The only problem with this is should have been done on the back of a red hot few
games rather than just one.

True or not he can go. Five years is too long to mollycoddle anyone.

Two words George Williams more than adequate replacement.
Learn from Walsh/Hohaia and cover half back and hooker short term.
Step up when one of them goes.

Goodbye Garry.

And where would that leave Charnock and Dave Hewitt. Aren't they meant to be the next big things? Rumour I heard on Friday was that Travis Burns is on the Saints shopping list.


Williams is going nowhere in the short term.

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:54 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

And where would that leave Charnock and Dave Hewitt. Aren't they meant to be the next big things? Rumour I heard on Friday was that Travis Burns is on the Saints shopping list.


Williams is going nowhere in the short term.

I agree, Charnock should be ready to be drip fed into the team soon if he's going to be good enough. By the end of 2015 when Lance leaves he should be our regular 6, again if he's up to the grade

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:05 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

And where would that leave Charnock and Dave Hewitt. Aren't they meant to be the next big things? Rumour I heard on Friday was that Travis Burns is on the Saints shopping list.


Williams is going nowhere in the short term.

Hewitt is 17 isn't he? Hardly ready to be called upon for first team action, or even to be first reserve. Charnocks position long term is still under debate isn't it? I thought he was seen more as a ball playing lock (Sculthorpe style) than a half back (in which case he could be Wilkins long term successor as opposed in the halves)

If wheeler is to go, we need an early 20s first reserve for lance and Walsh. Williams fits the bill (given you guys are playing him at 9 at the moment, he ticks 2 boxes for us) - if it's a wheeler for Williams swap I'd be happy I think. Not saying anything is definitive of course...

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:06 pm  

As regards the travis burns rumour, to go alongside the green and cox rumour, I'm starting to think there's an agent in hull who likes using saints' name.

Even if it were true, I'd imagine were shopping around for lance replacements given the rumours of his return to the NRL - we'd still need a reserve to which Williams would (as said above) fit the bill

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:07 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Hewitt is 17 isn't he? Hardly ready to be called upon for first team action, or even to be first reserve. Charnocks position long term is still under debate isn't it? I thought he was seen more as a ball playing lock (Sculthorpe style) than a half back (in which case he could be Wilkins long term successor as opposed in the halves)

If wheeler is to go, we need an early 20s first reserve for lance and Walsh. Williams fits the bill (given you guys are playing him at 9 at the moment, he ticks 2 boxes for us) - if it's a wheeler for Williams swap I'd be happy I think. Not saying anything is definitive of course...

Williams is only a year older than Hewitt.

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:11 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Williams is going nowhere in the short term.

Don't see the problem.

Wigan are as selling club and Saints are looking to buy a halfback.

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:12 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Williams is only a year older than Hewitt.

So 6. Hewitt 7. Williams 13. Charnock isn't infeasible

A year is a long time in a players development at that point, and can be the difference between being ready, and not

Re: Wheeler : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:14 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

Don't see the problem.

Wigan are as selling club and Saints are looking to buy a halfback.

As I said Travis Burns is the player Saints are looking at.