Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:05 pm  

Rommel wrote:

Question: Is this freeing up cap space for a signing? (GOB)

really really hope its not for GOB. Not Saints quality at all

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:24 pm  

I really don't get the dislike of GOB.

He shaped up our team at the tail end of the season. If he had played Leeds we may have won that match.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:26 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I really don't get the dislike of GOB.

He shaped up our team at the tail end of the season. If he had played Leeds we may have won that match.

He's ok just quite ordinary. Looked a diamond when he first came on the scene.
Lost his way a bit and lost something with it.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:30 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

He's ok just quite ordinary. Looked a diamond when he first came on the scene.
Lost his way a bit and lost something with it.

But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??

He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:45 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??

He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.

I dont think it's going to happen but as people are speculating - if we lay it out would Gareth O'Brien be a more useful sqaud member than Ade Gardner ... imo yes.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:10 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??

He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.

I understand.

However these days fringe players have a very short shelf life.

They are youngsters on the way up or someone looking
for a second chance but with real potential.

Look at Clough his time has come and gone therefore he needs to step down
to continue. The next crop of forwards are overtaking him.

At his best O'Brien is solid.

The real problem is that while the youth production line has been churning
out plenty of forwards and enough backs, there have been no HBs or hookers for a while.

Saints are on to the next crop of 16 year olds who may be ready in 2-3 years.

It is further complicated by hot & cold Hohaia and AWOL Wheeler neither of which
has been a nailed on 6 upto now.

When one or both goes the way is clear to buy
a proper 6 and a 3rd halfback/hooker with the change.

Top of the shopping list has to be Snyed.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:30 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

I understand.

However these days fringe players have a very short shelf life.

They are youngsters on the way up or someone looking
for a second chance but with real potential.

Look at Clough his time has come and gone therefore he needs to step down
to continue. The next crop of forwards are overtaking him.

At his best O'Brien is solid.

The real problem is that while the youth production line has been churning
out plenty of forwards and enough backs, there have been no HBs or hookers for a while.

Saints are on to the next crop of 16 year olds who may be ready in 2-3 years.

It is further complicated by hot & cold Hohaia and AWOL Wheeler neither of which
has been a nailed on 6 upto now.

When one or both goes the way is clear to buy
a proper 6 and a 3rd halfback/hooker with the change.

Top of the shopping list has to be Snyed.

If were living in fantasy dream world, and punting on a relative youngster from another club, I'd rather we went for sutcliffe at Leeds - the problem with going for Sneyd would be koukash - the more enquiries made, the more he'll want to keep him.

We've produced more than enough halfbacks to have left us set (grand final winners, international caps etc have come from saints academy), unfortunately for whatever reason, it's not worked out

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 pm  

I agree about cover for roby.
A good quality hooker to spell Roby would be great.
Higham would be nice or someone of that calibre.
Good thing in right games you can push roby into the forwards.
You could put roby anywhere on the field and in pretty sure he would be outstanding.

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 pm  

Tight games*

Re: Ade Gardner to HKR for season : Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:12 am  

back on topic, this move is good for everyone. Signing Dawson signalled Ade's time was up, Dawson is a reserve winger/ centre which puts Ade right out of the picture.
All the best Ade, always gave his best for the V