Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:39 pm  

Dux wrote:

It's interesting that Brown seems to imply that a lot of Wheeler's problems are of his own making. That piece reads to me like a compliment and a warning at the same time.

Yep, reiterates the point a few times.
Work hard and you could be Saints 6 and one of our top earners for 7/8 years. Revert back and be another wasted talent by october

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:42 pm  

I will be delighted if wheeler steps up this year, but let's not forget that other than 30 mins against Wigan, he has shown nothing other than glimpses of promise, and when he finally did play last year, he was just as quickly dropped for shocking defence. We cannot pin our hopes on someone who has only a minimal chance if success

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:48 pm  

It shows how poor our options are at 6 that Wheeler is still in with a very good shout.

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:02 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

It shows how poor our options are at 6 that Wheeler is still in with a very good shout.

I really think a fit wheeler is one of the top 6's in the league

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:07 pm  

It does make you wonder how he is still at Saints and what have past coaching staff been doing to improve players.

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:46 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

It shows how poor our options are at 6 that Wheeler is still in with a very good shout.

I'd argue that what it actually shows is how talented the lad is that he's still considered the best 6 at the club given his injury issues.

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:42 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

I'd argue that what it actually shows is how talented the lad is that he's still considered the best 6 at the club given his injury issues.

Agreed. Hope above hope that if his injuries are in some way down to his attitude/training regime, hes finially changed these

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:45 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

I'd argue that what it actually shows is how talented the lad is that he's still considered the best 6 at the club given his injury issues.

It's more a reflection of the fact that we've not recruited a 6 since Leon left.

On Brown's comments, they seem pretty meaningless to me. He said very positive things about Lee Gaskell and the partnership between Gaskell and Lomax and then very quickly got rid of Gaskell and moved Lomax.

I just don't see why Brown would tell everyone that Jordan Turner is our 6 for this season, then say this about Wheeler. If Turner were to play well, presumably Wheeler wouldn't even get a game? Or has Brown already changed his mind on Turner before the season has even kicked off?

As much as it's do or die for Wheeler this season, it is for Brown as well. He hasn't got a cat in hells chance of getting the NRL job he wants. He did nothing last year to suggest we're on the right road and if we don't perform start well this season, he'll be under massive pressure.

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:25 am  

Saddened! wrote:

I just don't see why Brown would tell everyone that Jordan Turner is our 6 for this season, then say this about Wheeler. If Turner were to play well, presumably Wheeler wouldn't even get a game? Or has Brown already changed his mind on Turner before the season has even kicked off?

Brown seems to have media tourettes. He just says what he's musing about at the time.

Re: Nathan Brown/Gary Wheeler : Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:20 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I'd argue that what it actually shows is how talented the lad is that he's still considered the best 6 at the club given his injury issues.

My point was if there was a decent 6 at the club, then Wheeler would be finding it very hard to get back in the team. He would have to force another 6 out.

Were as at the moment, he would walk in past all players tried there.

When Martyn was out Scully could hold down 6 and challenge for the role when Martyn was fit.

With a good 6 someone with Wheelers injury record would be sweating about being moved on, but as it is, even if he does not play 6 for most of this year, he would still be worth a shout on an extention next year. As even if we brought in a ready made 6 we would still need cover.

Turner is a possibility but that is really untested.