Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:03 pm  

St pete wrote:

Would he get a game in our pack next year ?

Next year I doubt he would be in the starting pack. But more long term I could see him in a starting pack. I'd imagine 2014 he will be doing similar to last year, rotating between Centre and Second Row.

I'd imagine the pack will change quite a lot next year though. I would be surprised and disappointed if we had the same people in the pack each week. We have enough quality and depth now to rotate and rest players.

For the opening game assuming all are fit and playing at the best that they were last year I would imagine a line up along the lines of.

Lomax Makinson Turner Jones Swift Lance Walsh
Amor Roby Laffranchi Sia Manu LMS

Masoe Warmsley Clough Wilkin


But I would expect some rotation for the next game though and I would expect Percival to be dripped into the team at points during the season, meaning Jones moves to the bench allowing Laffranchi a rest week and LMS to move up to the front row.

But for the Warrington game I would just go big big big. Hit em hard and early. No point trying to throw the ball about in the first match when it's cold and everyone is not sharp. Hit em with bulk and hit em with more bulk after that.


So next year yep I imagine barring injury Jones would be first at centre, but longer term a move up to the 2nd row. For me he is ahead of flanagan and wilkin in the 2nd row.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:28 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Next year I doubt he would be in the starting pack. But more long term I could see him in a starting pack. I'd imagine 2014 he will be doing similar to last year, rotating between Centre and Second Row.

I'd imagine the pack will change quite a lot next year though. I would be surprised and disappointed if we had the same people in the pack each week. We have enough quality and depth now to rotate and rest players.

For the opening game assuming all are fit and playing at the best that they were last year I would imagine a line up along the lines of.

Lomax Makinson Turner Jones Swift Lance Walsh
Amor Roby Laffranchi Sia Manu LMS

Masoe Warmsley Clough Wilkin


But I would expect some rotation for the next game though and I would expect Percival to be dripped into the team at points during the season, meaning Jones moves to the bench allowing Laffranchi a rest week and LMS to move up to the front row.

But for the Warrington game I would just go big big big. Hit em hard and early. No point trying to throw the ball about in the first match when it's cold and everyone is not sharp. Hit em with bulk and hit em with more bulk after that.


So next year yep I imagine barring injury Jones would be first at centre, but longer term a move up to the 2nd row. For me he is ahead of flanagan and wilkin in the 2nd row.

I voted stuck between centre and the pack big I'd start him centre. I'd tell him to make that spit his own.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:16 pm  

St pete wrote:

I voted stuck between centre and the pack big I'd start him centre. I'd tell him to make that spit his own.

Dirty boy.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:21 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Dirty boy.

Haha predictive txt. You can see what sort of fun and games I been up to this Xmas.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:45 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Next year I doubt he would be in the starting pack. But more long term I could see him in a starting pack. I'd imagine 2014 he will be doing similar to last year, rotating between Centre and Second Row.

I'd imagine the pack will change quite a lot next year though. I would be surprised and disappointed if we had the same people in the pack each week. We have enough quality and depth now to rotate and rest players.

For the opening game assuming all are fit and playing at the best that they were last year I would imagine a line up along the lines of.

Lomax Makinson Turner Jones Swift Lance Walsh
Amor Roby Laffranchi Sia Manu LMS

Masoe Warmsley Clough Wilkin


But I would expect some rotation for the next game though and I would expect Percival to be dripped into the team at points during the season, meaning Jones moves to the bench allowing Laffranchi a rest week and LMS to move up to the front row.

But for the Warrington game I would just go big big big. Hit em hard and early. No point trying to throw the ball about in the first match when it's cold and everyone is not sharp. Hit em with bulk and hit em with more bulk after that.


So next year yep I imagine barring injury Jones would be first at centre, but longer term a move up to the 2nd row. For me he is ahead of flanagan and wilkin in the 2nd row.

For the first game I agree except I'd swap Wilkin and sia. A bench of Masoe, walmsley, sia, clough/ flanaghan is one to be feared!

It will be interesting who continues there development after breaking through last year, greenwood, hand, and walker all played parts last year and need game time to continue, but have ALOT of people above them - anyone know whose being touted for loans?

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:48 pm  

I reckon Jones could end up as a bench player for both backs and forwards, this is dependant of Percival coming of age and grabs the centre spot.
I,m sure Jones is aware of this and suspect he will not give in too easily in losing the No 4 shirt.
At the end of the day its a competitive situation having 4 centres for 2 spots.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:42 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I reckon Jones could end up as a bench player for both backs and forwards, this is dependant of Percival coming of age and grabs the centre spot.
I,m sure Jones is aware of this and suspect he will not give in too easily in losing the No 4 shirt.
At the end of the day its a competitive situation having 4 centres for 2 spots.

Which is why I would hope we dont pick the same 17 week in week out.

People need game time to improve but they also need the threat of losing there spot to push them to greater heights. There are a few shoe in's Roby/Walsh. But I see no harm in resting Walsh against say a CC division 1 side.

Same with Jones, whilst I'd start him at Centre for Warrington (assuming fitness and performances go to plan)
I'd be tempted for the 2 games of Salford and Hull KR to drip Percival in there. If he holds up and out performs Jones. Then keep him in place until it looks like a rest is needed. With Jones rotating back in for the Leeds game.

Especially over easter, I'd hope we could keep some fresh legs against Cas.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:51 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Which is why I would hope we dont pick the same 17 week in week out.

People need game time to improve but they also need the threat of losing there spot to push them to greater heights. There are a few shoe in's Roby/Walsh. But I see no harm in resting Walsh against say a CC division 1 side.

Same with Jones, whilst I'd start him at Centre for Warrington (assuming fitness and performances go to plan)
I'd be tempted for the 2 games of Salford and Hull KR to drip Percival in there. If he holds up and out performs Jones. Then keep him in place until it looks like a rest is needed. With Jones rotating back in for the Leeds game.

Especially over easter, I'd hope we could keep some fresh legs against Cas.

I'm not one for chopping and changing the backs about every week. Backs need to play together to develop playing relationships. Centres and wingers need to develop a understanding and playing together does that, the same for the halves etc.

The pack can be moved about IMO.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:23 pm  

I would not change every week, but I think giving Percival 2 games here or there. Letting him play in 'easier' CC ties and weeks when we have to back up on say a Monday Thursday games or Easter Weekend.

The pack I agree I'd have more of a rota for those allowing some of the big guys a rest week, although for Amor the rest weeks might have to be dependent on who we play.

Re: Do you see Jones as a Centre or in the pack? : Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:36 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I would not change every week, but I think giving Percival 2 games here or there. Letting him play in 'easier' CC ties and weeks when we have to back up on say a Monday Thursday games or Easter Weekend.

The pack I agree I'd have more of a rota for those allowing some of the big guys a rest week, although for Amor the rest weeks might have to be dependent on who we play.

I'm all for resting players but your calling for players to be rested as early as first few games.