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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:03 am  
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Fair point, what have Saints, as a team or CLUB to achieve this over Wigan? And before you talk about roofing consider all that Wigan has acheived off the field as well as on.


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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:27 am  
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Community work, academy setup, training facilities, stadium facilities , we're the best in the league by far


Leeds Rhinos won the community club of the year.
Wigan were U19's academy league leaders and champions beating Leeds 34 - 10 on Saturday in the Grand Final.
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:07 am  
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Fair point, what have Saints, as a team or CLUB to achieve this over Wigan? And before you talk about roofing consider all that Wigan has acheived off the field as well as on.


To quote the SL website: "St Helens rounded off the evening’s awards when they were named the 2013 Super League Club of the Year for their investment in developing a world class facility at Langtree Park and their continued success in the area of youth development."

We have obviously got it because we have developed a top class facility which we actually own and can play in whenever we want to, rather than being the rent boys of a football club and play when they let us. Our academy IIRC started the season very well and were blowing most other teams out of the water - sadly, the knock on effect of the injury hit season we had meant that players like Walker, Greenwood, Swift, Richards, Thompson, Hand etc have all found themselves playing first team and the academy performances suffered because of this. That said, credit must go to our youth development for the work they have done with these guys as all came in and performed very well when we needed them to.

Couple this with the fact we have formed a number of successful community partnerships, both in and out of RL, and the links with Rochdale (who have ironically just become champions of their league under guidance of one of Saints coaches) and Whitehaven and I think its well deserved.
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:12 am  
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Leeds Rhinos won the community club of the year.
Wigan were U19's academy league leaders and champions beating Leeds 34 - 10 on Saturday in the Grand Final.


Tbh, I don't care.
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:14 am  
It's a meaningless award, I'm not sure why people are analysing it like we've been given the SL crown again.

It's nice recognition for the club. Leave it at that.
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:21 am  
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. Our academy IIRC started the season very well and were blowing most other teams out of the water - sadly, the knock on effect of the injury hit season we had meant that players like Walker, Greenwood, Swift, Richards, Thompson, Hand etc have all found themselves playing first team and the academy performances suffered because of this.


Not wishing to cause an argument, but only none of those players you named were eligible for the U19 academy this year.
Maybe Greenwood?
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:46 am  
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Not wishing to cause an argument,
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:59 am  
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Not wishing to cause an argument, but only none of those players you named were eligible for the U19 academy this year.
Maybe Greenwood?


Only none? At the start of this season, Greenwood, Swift, Hand, Percival, Thompson and Richards were all 19 and under and therefore eligible to play, not to mention likes of Speakman, Charnock who have been with first team squad for a handful of games as well.

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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:19 am  
I'm pretty sure Wigan were already an A grade licence club. We where a B teatering on a C licence club. The reward is for the club doing what it said it would do.

I have no wish to bag other clubs, but in terms of moving a club forwards as a business Saints have put great efforts in on all fronts to meet what the RFL required.

Like has been said it's recognition for the club. I'm sure Wigan have had club of the year in recent years and I did not bat an eyelid about it. It's a nice award by the RFL to say thanks for putting in the effort. It's not claiming that Saints quantitively better than anyone else.

Team of the year is recognised via the following awards; the CC, LLS and GF. So there should be no confusion that on the feild matters are also rewarded.
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Re: Saints are club of the year : Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:26 am  
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Only none? At the start of this season, Greenwood, Swift, Hand, Percival, Thompson and Richards were all 19 and under and therefore eligible to play, not to mention likes of Speakman, Charnock who have been with first team squad for a handful of games as well.

There is no argument, you are wrong. Simples :D


It isn't at the start of the season it's from 1st September.
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