Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:38 pm  

The RFL were weak last round of SL surely they can't afford to be weak now, good on LMS for 'sorting the problem

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:39 pm  

I still say today's tackle is hard to say from the pixel image. He hit the deck pretty hard. I thought yellow for lateness and in the back again. But head high? Not a clear cut for me till I see a proper replay. Ref gets one look so can understand on report as he is following the ball. One touch is watching the forward pass so has moved on. Other touch marks the defensive line but is on other side of the field. Should be two refs really.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:42 am  

I have watched the 'tackle' back several times now and it is very late and a definite shoulder charge. There is contact with the head so you would expect Zeb to get at least a couple of games. I find it a little hypocritical though that you blow up about this after the cup game at Craven Park where Dobson was taken out by a late shoulder charge from Wilkin (a very clean player BTW), and Welham was put out for the rest of the season by a late shoulder charge. You rightly state that it is a game wide problem, one of our own players took out Blake Green in the cup game with Wigan by using a shoulder charge. If its illegal then start sending people off to get the message across. I hope young O'Brien is OK, and also the very best of luck for the rest of the season.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:02 am  

Shoulder charge is a penalty.

Head shoulder charge is a red.

I am not too fussed by the shoulder charge, for me it's the lateness. If you have the ball and are square with the play, you will protect yourself with a shoulder charge, but a late shoulder charge is basically just the same as hitting someone in the back. That's why I thought it was a Yellow, without a judgement on the head high. Even the ref said it was late, but he could not say where on the body it was.

Well in my opinion the late shot is dirty and so a Yellow. Surely he can give a Yellow and then report for the head high????

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:22 am  

theblondebomber wrote:

For me they need to get rid of the on report power to refs. It's either a penalty, yellow card or red card..

Agree. Never understood the on report function really, you can cite a player after the game anyway. It's a get out of a decision tool. We need to get rid of it from our game and put authority back to the referee.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:41 am  

For me, it shold be quite easy to officiate especially in televised matches. I would change the on report ruling, if the victim has to be carried off the field as result pf a late or illegal tackle then the accused leaves the field as well and is replaced.
For televised matches whilst the victim is being treated and stretchered off, i,m sure the video ref can judge if its a replacement conversion to a red card sending off.
There is alot of negativity in officiating the match game and this is one of them.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:44 am  

el red wrote:

I find it a little hypocritical though that you blow up about this after the cup game at Craven Park where Dobson was taken out by a late shoulder charge from Wilkin (a very clean player BTW), and Welham was put out for the rest of the season by a late shoulder charge.

Nothing hypocritical at all. Wilkin was banned for two matches and Gardner for one, and so far as I can remember nobody on here tried to justify Wilkin's tackle although some thought Gardner's punishment harsh. HOwever, I think you'll find that Welham wasn't injured by our players.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:45 am  

Catalan were guilty of exactly the same thing against Salford earlier in the year. It caused eighteen year old Theo Fages to stop breathing and only for the quick thinking of Salford's physio the results could have been terrible.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:05 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

"I let the match commissioner know what I thought about the tackle at half-time. I thought it was nothing short of disgraceful and the reason why they've done it (not sent Taia off) is because last week (Wigan second rower) Scott Taylor deliberately hit Gareth O'Brien in the head and knocked him out.

"I believe Zeb Taia is a lovely fella and a terrific player, but they've attacked his head deliberately and he'll (Taia) get nothing because the match commissioner will be shocking about it.

"I find it absolutely downright rude and disgraceful that they (the RFL) don't protect the players in the game, in particular the small ones, who are the key players.

"It is absolutely nothing short of appalling. If one of my own players did it, I'd expect them to be sent off and then be suspended for a long, long period of time. I'm really appalled that the RFL can allow this to keep happening."

Well said. It was a cynical challenge just like the last one designed to take out a key man. The last one should have got a ban and this one should too. The cowards at the RFL will no doubt be more bothered by Browns comments.

Re: Nathan Brown on 'that' tackle. : Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:07 am  

Warrington Wolf wrote:

Do you remember Brown whilst the Hudds manager said " if my litte blokes keep getting hit and with no protection from the referee then my big blokes will sort it ou". Or something very similar.

He got in bother for that comment as be also said " if the rfl don't start protecting the little players, then my big players like mason and (can't think of his name) will start protecting them"