Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:57 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

In fairness to Howarth though you could say the same about almost every player in the Saints team.

As a team we have played from very average to bloody awful for most of the season, with one or two having good games each week. Aside from the home game against Hull KR of course when pretty much everyone was as dire as they could possibly be.

Amazing what fans leaving early and booing the place down can do to a team's performance!

Agreed but we don't need to make a choice if to keep most of the team but we do with stu.

I've nothing at all against him and never fault his work ethic or attitude but I've seen him have some shockers this year, especially in defence.

Unless he's very very cheap, I wouldn't offer him a deal.

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:34 pm  

If we don't sign him up who will cover for the injury prone Roby?

I'd get rid of Wheeler before Howarth

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:50 pm  

Rommel wrote:

If we don't sign him up who will cover for the injury prone Roby?

I'd get rid of Wheeler before Howarth

I don't deal with the players every day so I don't know who's the backup hooker in the reserves.

Wheeler and howarth are totally different positions so impossible to compare them.

Like I said, if howarth was extremely cheap, I'd keep him but I'm not getting not getting carried away with his form of the last two games as I've not forget some horrific form in the weeks before that that which lead to him not even making the 17.

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:04 pm  

Wello has just singled out Howarth on Twitter for praise in defence.

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:08 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Wello has just singled out Howarth on Twitter for praise in defence.

He was immense in defence. Put some big hits on which resulted in them losing the ball.

He's popular lad with the saints lads. Him and big Alex good mates.

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:27 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

In fairness to Howarth though you could say the same about almost every player in the Saints team.

As a team we have played from very average to bloody awful for most of the season, with one or two having good games each week. Aside from the home game against Hull KR of course when pretty much everyone was as dire as they could possibly be.

Amazing what fans leaving early and booing the place down can do to a team's performance!

Agreed. All players have been poor apart from the last too weeks. With a proper 7 in walsh he may flourish. See what happens I guess

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:05 pm  

Some may not agree but I'd keep him especially if there's no other options available. If we manage to get rid of Hohaia that will free the necessary cash for a Stand Off but we'll need a back up hooker. Howarth may not be the most talented but he gives 100% and is a decent back up option who will probably be on a fairly low salary. Roby surely won't miss as many games next year so he'd be a bit part player.

Re: Stu Howarth : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:57 pm  

Slowest passer of the ball I've ever seen at 9 for saints, never a saints standard hooker

Re: Stu Howarth : Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:15 am  

I am sure we have plenty of cover if Roby does get injured - we don't need another hooker unless that happens. Wilkin, Wellens, Flanagan.

No need to have people in the team who are not required, they may not take up much cap space but they do take up some.

He may have played well in the last couple of games but he isn't of the standard we need if we are to get back to being a team competing for trophies

Re: Stu Howarth : Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:33 am  

I think I would see if he improves his performance consistency. Playing Roby for 80 minutes the last 2 season swas OK short term but has made him less effective.
It looks as though we might be 1 or 2 more seasons away for a "proper" hooker and not an adaptable one.
Probably an improved Howarth would be a better option, maybe Brown can improve his game similar to what he did at Hudd with Moore.