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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.

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Another classic:

[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.

Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.

Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666

0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".

Therefore ZERO.[/quote]

Give the girl her dummy back.

Re: The original Luke Walsh get-out clause story : Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:29 am  
Or he might love It and stay longer.
Just a thought.
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Re: The original Luke Walsh get-out clause story : Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:34 am  
I don't care how long he stays if he plays for us as he has been playing for Penrith. He was a one man crusade for them today. Flippin brilliant. If he brings that form over with him it will be a joy just watching him play.
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Re: The original Luke Walsh get-out clause story : Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:52 am  
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I don't care how long he stays if he plays for us as he has been playing for Penrith. He was a one man crusade for them today. Flippin brilliant. If he brings that form over with him it will be a joy just watching him play.


What if he only plays one game?
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Re: The original Luke Walsh get-out clause story : Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:03 pm  
If this clause was correct, then why would he have asked Saints to release him from his contract when St. George enquired about his availability?

If this clause exists then why didn't he activate it at that point?

More inclined to believe the clubs version who state no clause exists!
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Re: The original Luke Walsh get-out clause story : Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:24 pm  
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If this clause was correct, then why would he have asked Saints to release him from his contract when St. George enquired about his availability?

If this clause exists then why didn't he activate it at that point?

More inclined to believe the clubs version who state no clause exists!


The fact that he has asked for saints to effectively cancel the contract
within weeks of it being signed is the concern.
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St pete wrote:
What if he only plays one game?

Then I will have had more joy from watching him in one game than I have experienced for a whole season this year of watching Saints and for that I will be grateful. :wink:
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We really need to get behind Luke from day one. Welcome him with open arms from the terrace. Make him a fans favourite. This guy can be our talisman.
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JonB95 wrote:
We really need to get behind Luke from day one. Welcome him with open arms from the terrace. Make him a fans favourite. This guy can be our talisman.


Give over, the guy doesn't even want to play for us, he sounds like a right fool.

He was playing appallingly for Penrith and they made the decision to axe him. They signed Jamie Soward and told Walsh to find another club. In typical McManus fashion we then steamed in with another 'whatever Ts&Cs contract you want' contract, just like we did with Lance Hohaia. He accepted that and with his future sorted and knowing he was leaving Penrith, the pressure he wasn't coping with was instantly lifted.

That pressure being lifted from his shoulders meant he was able to play a more natural game and that is where his impressive form came from. It only took a month for another NRL club to realise they could do with him and he was asking Saints for a release before he'd even got here, if the reports are true. What it sounds like to me is Walsh now regretting signing for us and trying to get it out there that this clause exists and trying to force an NRL club to make an approach

Saints have publicly stated he's coming for two years. They need to sit down with Walsh and ask him if he's committed to that. If he is, great, looks like we've got a decent player. If not, he should be let go. There is absolutely no point signing a player who doesn't want to be in the country let alone play for us. We'd be better off with Gaskell than a sulking Walsh.

To be fair to Saints, the last paragraph may have already happened. He may have confirmed his commitment, but if so, they should ask him to release a nice PR piece about that, and not let him continually be quoted saying he can walk whenever he likes.
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Give over, the guy doesn't even want to play for us, he sounds like a right fool.

He was playing appallingly for Penrith and they made the decision to axe him. They signed Jamie Soward and told Walsh to find another club. In typical McManus fashion we then steamed in with another 'whatever Ts&Cs contract you want' contract, just like we did with Lance Hohaia. He accepted that and with his future sorted and knowing he was leaving Penrith, the pressure he wasn't coping with was instantly lifted.

That pressure being lifted from his shoulders meant he was able to play a more natural game and that is where his impressive form came from. It only took a month for another NRL club to realise they could do with him and he was asking Saints for a release before he'd even got here, if the reports are true. What it sounds like to me is Walsh now regretting signing for us and trying to get it out there that this clause exists and trying to force an NRL club to make an approach

Saints have publicly stated he's coming for two years. They need to sit down with Walsh and ask him if he's committed to that. If he is, great, looks like we've got a decent player. If not, he should be let go. There is absolutely no point signing a player who doesn't want to be in the country let alone play for us. We'd be better off with Gaskell than a sulking Walsh.

To be fair to Saints, the last paragraph may have already happened. He may have confirmed his commitment, but if so, they should ask him to release a nice PR piece about that, and not let him continually be quoted saying he can walk whenever he likes.


It's the 'anytime' bit that bothers me . If he had a release at the end of each season option and a window where he has to tell us by then fair enough but anytime suggests he can pack his bags mid season and we are looking down the barrel of another appallingly bad season like this one.
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We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.

Could it be that he can go at any time but with an early release fee. A bit like my mortgage deal . It's fixed but if I want to go elsewhere a fee must be paid. So asking to be released would suggest that it would be a high fee reducing over time.
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