Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:32 am  

theres only one stan wall wrote:

Writing off Chase as inconsistent & Dobson as not good enough......but likes Sammut. You couldn't make it up.

Was that really necessary? No.

Sammut is more of a Longy style halfback. I happen to like that style of halfback. Those with originality, risk, flair, creativity, vision and a 'f*** it let's give it a go' type approach. His defence doesn't appear to be a problem to Bradford, who happen to be doing better than us this season, a fact largely down to the uniqueness of Sammut.

But if you want a robot who happens to have a good kicking game or someone who plays in flashes of about 10 minutes each half then so be it. However, I don't mock your view so kindly lay off mocking mine.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:59 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I wouldn't want Chase in our team. He only does his stuff for 10 minutes either side of halftime. He has a poor attitude and that would just cause us problems. As for Dobson, he's a good organiser and kicker but fans on here were once clamouring for some 'x factor' in their halfbacks. I don't see any in Dobson's style.

If we're going to pick up an antipodean in our halves - and for some reason that always seems to be the answer everyone wants to the question - then I'd aim for Jarrod Sammut. Having him in our team would be fab.

Chase's petulism is a real bugbear for me.
He has the skills to do some really impressive stuff and, when I saw the Cas v Hudds game, there was certainly no lack of effort albeit a little to late on that occasion. He's not the smartest, though - if you watched the Cas defeat to HKR, Millward went mad at his team when they failed to clear their half with a safe kick late in the second half (they ended up with sheton kicking it out on the full). This is the sort of thing we'd do currently.
Sammut is probably a good call to bring the X factor you mention, without Chase's petualnce and dirty play, but Dobson organisation and % play is what we lack and what we need.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:07 am  

Albion wrote:

Chase and Dobson would be perfect, but doubt that would ever come off.

Dobson is the most likely and he's exactly the sort of player we need. I don't know why someone above was saying that we need an 'xfactor' from HB? No we don't when we have lomax at 1. We need an organiser and Dobson is exactly the sort of player we need.

Don't forget, we have Lance who, whilst not be a perfect 6, does have confidence, pace and a bit of the X factor himself.
Dobbo would be great, but I also think Hanbury would be a good call, even if he's currently playing full back.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:46 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Was that really necessary? No.

Sammut is more of a Longy style halfback. I happen to like that style of halfback. Those with originality, risk, flair, creativity, vision and a 'f*** it let's give it a go' type approach. His defence doesn't appear to be a problem to Bradford, who happen to be doing better than us this season, a fact largely down to the uniqueness of Sammut.

But if you want a robot who happens to have a good kicking game or someone who plays in flashes of about 10 minutes each half then so be it. However, I don't mock your view so kindly lay off mocking mine.

Sammut is inconsistent and a diabolical defender, he got shown for what he was when saints pin pointed him at odlsum. Comparing him to Longy? jeez!

Dobson a robot? If a robot can help hull kr into one of the better attacking teams in the league then I'll happily have a robot

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:12 am  

Chase is an outstanding player. His motivation probably comes from being such a big fish in such a small pond. I've played for football teams in the past where you are the best player by a country mile and it's hard to do it every week when they constantly look to you to drag them out of whatever mess they are in.

If he moved to Saints he would be fantastic. Same with Dobson. Same to a lesser degree with Sammut, who isn't really what we're looking for as he's a lone ranger and not really as good with the organsational duties and kicking.

Any of those three would be great signings and would vastly improve us.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:13 am  

southernsaint7 wrote:

Sammut is inconsistent and a diabolical defender, he got shown for what he was when saints pin pointed him at odlsum. Comparing him to Longy? jeez!

Dobson a robot? If a robot can help hull kr into one of the better attacking teams in the league then I'll happily have a robot

We need a robot, though. He might not be as exciting to watch as other halves, but he'll allow Hohaia and Lomax to shine more.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:27 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

We need a robot, though. He might not be as exciting to watch as other halves, but he'll allow Hohaia and Lomax to shine more.

Chase would be a mistake to even consider imo, he is too inconsistent and seems to be a big fish in a small pond in a very poor Cas team. Has never really seemed above ordinary when you see him playing for England surrounded by better players and his attitude is very poor.

As Offside Monkey says above, I think a half back like Dobson at 7 would see Lance become a lot more effective at 6 and would help Lomax look even better at full back, would welcome that one with open arms. Whilst not a flair player, Dobson is a solid half back who can organise a line well and has a superb kicking game, all things we have lacked since Longy left imo

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:30 am  

To get Both Chase & Dobson I think it a little more than day dreaming! can't see Mac paying for both and releasing two import slots is a big ask! As everyone has said Chase will return down under and he will not get a work permit, Dobson he always seems happy where he is and his last extended contract was to the end of 2014, so how much to buy him out?

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:49 am  

Dobson/Chase would be a classic Organiser/Maverick combination. Dobson/Sammut would be decent too. But Dobson/Hohaia or Dobson/Swift, Wheeler or a.n.other youngster would solve a lot of our problems.

Re: Chase and Dobson : Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:53 am  

jaybs wrote:

To get Both Chase & Dobson I think it a little more than day dreaming! can't see Mac paying for both

It's a question of economics though.

Would signing a crowd pleasing half (with the potential resultant on field improvement) add 1,500 to the average crowd?

13 home games, 1500 people, £25 a pop quickly gets you to about half a million quid.

Clearly that's assuming that we are currently at maximum cap so no payroll differential going forward.