Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:00 pm  

Given the string of Liverpool football games coming up at the stadium, I can't see any work being done on the cladding in the next few weeks.

I think that the most likely time for it to be done will be January. Fingers crossed!!!

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:49 pm  

This appeared on redvee.net: Caption Competition Not sure about posting pictures with copyright etc...but the picture is the last one in this link http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2446

This appeared on redvee.net: Caption Competition Not sure about posting pictures with copyright etc...but the picture is the last one in this link http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2446

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:12 am  

Albion wrote: :lol: This appeared on redvee.net: Caption Competition Not sure about posting pictures with copyright etc...but the picture is the last one in this link http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2446 It does offer alot of caption options as they are staring at the North stand "Yes it is supposed to be like that Darren" or "Nice Stadium, when are you finishing it?"

Albion wrote: :lol: This appeared on redvee.net: Caption Competition Not sure about posting pictures with copyright etc...but the picture is the last one in this link http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2446 It does offer alot of caption options as they are staring at the North stand "Yes it is supposed to be like that Darren" or "Nice Stadium, when are you finishing it?"

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:33 am  

Cladding update!!!! http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2534 SINCE the end of the one-year contractual defects period, which expired on October 24, St.Helens R.F.C. have been able to review in detail the requirements for added protection from the elements both within the seated and standing areas of the stadium, as well as the public concourse. Discussions are taking place with the developer, main contractor and structural engineers and a number of options are currently being assessed. The Club expects a detailed report to be received before Christmas for analysis and will then decide on the optimum method and timing. We are committed to doing all that is practical, and in as speedy a timeframe as is possible, to ensure that necessary additions and improvements are made and the Club is working closely with all relevant professional parties in that regard. It is a complex and demanding area from a structural engineering viewpoint, given the design of the stadium, and the correct long-term option needs to be decided and adopted only after the most detailed consideration. It is imperative that the right option is adopted given the potential costs involved and it is also critical that any additions do not detract from the unique design of Langtree Park. A further announcement will be made early in the New Year. From http://www.saintsrlfc.com

Cladding update!!!! http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2534 SINCE the end of the one-year contractual defects period, which expired on October 24, St.Helens R.F.C. have been able to review in detail the requirements for added protection from the elements both within the seated and standing areas of the stadium, as well as the public concourse. Discussions are taking place with the developer, main contractor and structural engineers and a number of options are currently being assessed. The Club expects a detailed report to be received before Christmas for analysis and will then decide on the optimum method and timing. We are committed to doing all that is practical, and in as speedy a timeframe as is possible, to ensure that necessary additions and improvements are made and the Club is working closely with all relevant professional parties in that regard. It is a complex and demanding area from a structural engineering viewpoint, given the design of the stadium, and the correct long-term option needs to be decided and adopted only after the most detailed consideration. It is imperative that the right option is adopted given the potential costs involved and it is also critical that any additions do not detract from the unique design of Langtree Park. A further announcement will be made early in the New Year. From http://www.saintsrlfc.com

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:29 pm  

That's not an update Saints! That's a wishy washy keep patient article.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:47 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

That's not an update Saints! That's a wishy washy keep patient article.

Well yes it is, but I'm unsure how much more the club could have done with this statement tbh. Yes, it's a statement that lacks any real substance, but if there is nothing to report and fans DEMAND some sort of update (see the thread over on redvee.net which is full of moans) then that's exactly what you'll get: an update saying very little.

I'd rather the club consider the proposals carefully and then choose the right option that will benefit the ground in the long term, rather than rushing into something that may just lead to further problems.

We just have to be a little more patient and a little less cynical about what goes on at the club. The question is WHEN will it get done, as opposed to IF it will get done.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:31 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

That's not an update Saints! That's a wishy washy keep patient article.

It's more a "We don't want to jump in without thinking everything through, make another mistake, get pilloried by fans for it, then have to spend more money [again] trying to put it right"

Suspect they're also looking at maximising the contribution from the architects/contractors - and this will depend heavily on how the design was sold to Saints.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:34 pm  

Aye, it's all fair enough what they're saying. But I'd rather they didn't call it an update and get me all excited when it's just telling us what we already know.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:36 pm  

Albion wrote:

We just have to be a little more patient and a little less cynical about what goes on at the club. The question is WHEN will it get done, as opposed to IF it will get done.

I don't think it's that certain. There is clearly a cost implication that the club is against paying for. I can't imagine any of the parties involved in construction or planning sticking their hand up to pay for the work either. I don't see this ever being solved, it's one of those that will just rumble on until people get used to it and then be forgotten about it, with a catalogue of 'updates' blaming other people.

The lack of cladding wasn't a design oversight, lets face it. It was a cost cutting measure from Saints that backfired on them spectacularly when there was such extremely bad weather for the first few home games. Had those home games been reasonable weather, this whole issue would have never come up.

Re: Stadium Site pictures PART II (Cladding Edition) : Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:51 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

The lack of cladding wasn't a design oversight, lets face it. It was a cost cutting measure from Saints

I'd suggest you don't know WTF you're talking about. If you think that McManus and others looked at plans which had a full cladding, shook their heads and said "Nah, scrap the cladding and we'll save £x... sod the supporters, they won't notice getting wet." then you're a loon.

More likely is the designers either assured Saints that the design would not lead to extensive drenching of fans, or it was simply not mentioned by the architects and Saints didn't pick up on the potential problems.