Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:07 pm  

The Lambeth Bronco wrote: .............. the chairman of St Helens RLFC, Mr Eamonn McManus. Expansion works!!!!!!!!!! Why is this aimed at McManus? Has he asked for London to be cut or something?

The Lambeth Bronco wrote: .............. the chairman of St Helens RLFC, Mr Eamonn McManus. Expansion works!!!!!!!!!! Why is this aimed at McManus? Has he asked for London to be cut or something?

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:15 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Have you ever been to London or lived in London? It takes ages to get anywhere from anywhere else. The fans who turn up to watch what has largely been dross for the last four seasons are probably the most loyal bunch of fans in Superleague.

As long as they don,t play Friday Night home games shouldn,t be a problem. The other team manage to get 12000 fans travelling there, Broncos should be getting in excess of 6000 fans, at the moment its an embarrasment, down there the public don,t take to the league game seriously.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:40 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

As long as they don,t play Friday Night home games shouldn,t be a problem. The other team manage to get 12000 fans travelling there, Broncos should be getting in excess of 6000 fans, at the moment its an embarrasment, down there the public don,t take to the league game seriously.

Exactly

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:52 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Why is this aimed at McManus? Has he asked for London to be cut or something?

He made negative reference to expansion in his recent little speech giving support to Bradford. This follows his speech of not long ago about how Superleague should be 12 teams (presumably including Bradford, and all others located along the M62 corridor). The man really should stick to what he does best: making money.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:27 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He made negative reference to expansion in his recent little speech giving support to Bradford. This follows his speech of not long ago about how Superleague should be 12 teams (presumably including Bradford, and all others located along the M62 corridor). The man really should stick to what he does best: making money.

Some would argue that is what he is seeking to do by advocating a reduction in the the size of SL by ditching Broncos and (possibly) Dragons. Plays well with a home crowd does that.

Some reckon he's still miffed that the French had the audacity to come to Langtree Park and win earlier in the season!!!

SaintsFan wrote:

The fans who turn up to watch what has largely been dross for the last four seasons are probably the most loyal bunch of fans in Superleague.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. It's appreciated.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:59 pm  

To be fair McManus was really talking about professional rugby league (Superleague) and not grass roots rugby. As a successful ex investment banker he was really talking about club liabilities and the structure of rugby league.
As a chairman of our club who has saved this club from extinction, processed a brand new stadium and placed a plan for the future, I have more regard for him than the eggheads of the RFL who still advocate that professional rugby league expansion has been a success.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:16 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

To be fair McManus was really talking about professional rugby league (Superleague) and not grass roots rugby.

Yes, we all know that already. And that was my point.

As a successful ex investment banker he was really talking about club liabilities and the structure of rugby league.

Doubt that. Bradford has proven to be the biggest liability going and yet he wants to keep them in Superleague. He was speaking to his own agenda which is parochial and backward looking.

As a chairman of our club who has saved this club from extinction, processed a brand new stadium and placed a plan for the future, I have more regard for him than the eggheads of the RFL who still advocate that professional rugby league expansion has been a success.

Well that's simply because you are as parochial as he is. I'm not. I can see the bigger picture and just because he put money into the club - and I'm sure David Hughes in London has probably invested at least as much but seen far, far less return for his money - does not give him immunity from criticism or comment or indeed having fans wish he'd button it.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:19 pm  

The Lambeth Bronco wrote:

Some would argue that is what he is seeking to do by advocating a reduction in the the size of SL by ditching Broncos and (possibly) Dragons. Plays well with a home crowd does that.

Absolutely. Actually, I'd love it if next season under Rea London had a stormer of a season. That would really put paid to the tosh that some fans (and chairmen) speak.

Some reckon he's still miffed that the French had the audacity to come to Langtree Park and win earlier in the season!!!

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:55 pm  

The SL experiment in London has clearly been an abject, cataclysmic failure of the greatest order and I struggle to see on any level how anyone could reasonably argue otherwise. It is nothing but an utter embarassment and a weeping sore of credibility at the top level of our sport. The handful of players that the game has gained from London (which is the only reasoned argument for the continuing existence of a London SL club anyone can seem to come up with) would still be there with a similarly funded Cooperative league side.

Re: Message for ................... : Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:26 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

The SL experiment in London has clearly been an abject, cataclysmic failure of the greatest order and I struggle to see on any level how anyone could reasonably argue otherwise. It is nothing but an utter embarassment and a weeping sore of credibility at the top level of our sport. The handful of players that the game has gained from London (which is the only reasoned argument for the continuing existence of a London SL club anyone can seem to come up with) would still be there with a similarly funded Cooperative league side.

What a load of rubbish.