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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:18 am  
Jamie went to Hull for a reason. Let him have some time there to work on his game in a first team squad.
If you want to put some pressure on Mak's performances, give Swift a run out this weekend.
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[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.

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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:18 am  
I'd have Foster on the wing before Swift going into the play offs, he has big game experience. IIRC, Swift has 2 appearances?

Though Fosters issue is confidence for me, and I'm not sure the Saints fans would back him enough at the game for him to regain that.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:23 am  
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I'd have Foster on the wing before Swift going into the play offs, he has big game experience. IIRC, Swift has 2 appearances?

Though Fosters issue is confidence for me, and I'm not sure the Saints fans would back him enough at the game for him to regain that.

Valid point, but Jamie was in a bad place when he was dropped. I'd like to see him get a bit of time at Hull to try and regain his form and confidence.

Swift would be our only real newby if we were to take him now. Maybe a couple of weeks rest for Makinson would be good for him.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:28 am  
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Valid point, but Jamie was in a bad place when he was dropped. I'd like to see him get a bit of time at Hull to try and regain his form and confidence.

Swift would be our only real newby if we were to take him now. Maybe a couple of weeks rest for Makinson would be good for him.


I agree with both points really, I do think Makinson needs a time out, he looks shot mentally to me.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:30 am  
Swift is a better player than Foster. Good step, quicker & a good finisher. Foster wont play for Saints under Rush & KC. His comments last week confirmed it when he said weve gone for size or pace on the flanks this yr. Foster has neither.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:35 am  
I get the feeling Swift will be the one that takes the #1 shirt, rather than Makinson.
Similar to the fashion in which Jones got the centre shirt in front of Wheeler.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:37 am  
I'm quite happy for Jamie to stay where he is for the time being. Let him have a fresh start when Brown comes in.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:42 am  
I'd agree that the wing spots are wide open for debate, this is primarily down to having wingers though who are unsafe in defence. Every single one of them (bar Gardner in the last 2 years) seams to show a liability under the high ball.

So we then have to say which is the better going forwards. We have known with Meli for years that he fluffs it went it goes high in a pressure game. When Foster came in it was a breath of fresh air to see a player go up in traffic in a tight game and secure the ball. But then he got the wobbles 18 month in. Makinson again the same thing, it's been just over a year to 18 months and the wobbles have come in. Gardner had the wobbles for years but now seams to have settled that part of his game, but sadly now gets injured.

Personally I'm not too concerned with the attacking part of the game, if they can cut the errors and be dominant going for the ball, then the player who can do that would be my choice. But we also need the centres to work more in partnership on these high kicks, they don't have to knock opposition players off, but simply standing near the winger when a kick goes up, will stop the opposition having a direct run at pace on the winger who is usually rooted to the spot.

If Ade can get fit, then he would be my pick at the moment.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:28 pm  
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Any coincidence that Makinson has under performed more significantly since Foster went to Hull?

Has he though? What was he like against Wire? The previous week Makinson was very good indeed. The week prior to that he had an off game. Against Wigan on pretty much each occasion he was our stand out player. Foster hasn't been played in the first team since Simmons was sacked and I'm quite sure everyone knows he wasn't going to be played for the first team again this season as well. It's been obvious to fans, never mind players.

Makinson has to play with Shenton as his centre. How much of Makinson's so-called form is down to Shenton's? Shenton seems to have up and down matches.
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Re: Time to recall jamie foster? : Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:44 pm  
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Has he though? What was he like against Wire? The previous week Makinson was very good indeed. The week prior to that he had an off game. Against Wigan on pretty much each occasion he was our stand out player. Foster hasn't been played in the first team since Simmons was sacked and I'm quite sure everyone knows he wasn't going to be played for the first team again this season as well. It's been obvious to fans, never mind players.

Makinson has to play with Shenton as his centre. How much of Makinson's so-called form is down to Shenton's? Shenton seems to have up and down matches.


It's clear to see that makinsons form has declined recently and his confidence is low, he's dropping kicks now and his head goes down when he makes mistakes and he's now starting to moan at the ref when he drops balls.

Briers knew he's struggling on kicks and that's why every kick nearky went his way.
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