Re: Lance Hohaia : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:52 pm  

St pete wrote:

And that's my point with Laffranchi at prop, he can't compete with big physical packs. He's had a ok season and gives 100% but in these games it shows he's a backrow playing prop.

Sia played well when he came on. Why is he on the bench?

I'm guessing they wanted Sia for impact when TP and Perry came off. Was he playing at prop today he defended very central?

Re: Lance Hohaia : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:57 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I do think he was vastly improved but my comment still stands , in the Leeds game you mentioned he had acres of space and he looked good.

I agree, he's to slow at halfback, I don't mean as in pace, it's his speed of thought and basically lack of rugby brain.

I've played stand off most my life and was always taught to play with my head up and play what I see, lance certainly plays with his head up but it seems to take a eternity for his brain to trigger what he sees.

I think years of playing fullback, where the is more space doesn't help as he needs to play when the aint space.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:11 pm  

St pete wrote:

I agree, he's to slow at halfback, I don't mean as in pace, it's his speed of thought and basically lack of rugby brain.

I've played stand off most my life and was always taught to play with my head up and play what I see, lance certainly plays with his head up but it seems to take a eternity for his brain to trigger what he sees.

I think years of playing fullback, where the is more space doesn't help as he needs to play when the aint space.

I agree, I think playing at fullback he would have space similar to that against Leeds most weeks and he would be able to influence the game far more just like Tomkins does at W***n

Re: Lance Hohaia : Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:14 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I'm guessing they wanted Sia for impact when TP and Perry came off. Was he playing at prop today he defended very central?

Sia should be starting, he can play long mind and has been out best forward this year and brings aggression that we lack.

Put lazy bones TP on the bench and let him impact the game.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:20 pm  

Lazy bones?


I think the big plus for Lance is that this was a tough close game. He certainly put himself into the game and made an impact. He turned us around after we had been pummelled for 10 minutes.

That's what we want from a half back is'nt it, not just a halfback who can play behind a dominate pack, but a half who can take control and impact on a game when it's more even.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:25 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Lazy bones?


I think the big plus for Lance is that this was a tough close game. He certainly put himself into the game and made an impact. He turned us around after we had been pummelled for 10 minutes.

That's what we want from a half back is'nt it, not just a halfback who can play behind a dominate pack, but a half who can take control and impact on a game when it's more even.

TP is lazy in the backrow and goes missing.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:59 am  

St pete wrote:

TP is lazy in the backrow and goes missing.

I agree.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:46 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I agree.

I noticed this in his very first season, if he's in the backrow he's lazy and goes missing, if he's put in a prop he can't go missing as easy.

IMO hes a prop, hes played his best rugby at prop and can be devastating if he get more ball. we've got LMS and clough to give him rests.

We are putting sia on the bench to accomadate TP in the backrow and we lose the all action player that sia is.

I'd even play Laffranchi in backrow before TP.

Re: Lance Hohaia : Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:49 am  

St pete wrote:

I noticed this in his very first season, if he's in the backrow he's lazy and goes missing, if he's put in a prop he can't go missing as easy.

IMO hes a prop, hes played his best rugby at prop and can be devastating if he get more ball. we've got LMS and clough to give him rests.

We are putting sia on the bench to accomadate TP in the backrow and we lose the all action player that sia is.

I'd even play Laffranchi in backrow before TP.

I Agree TP is far more effective at prop. Saying that I still think Sia will find a natural home at prop

Re: Lance Hohaia : Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:56 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

I Agree TP is far more effective at prop. Saying that I still think Sia will find a natural home at prop

I posted that sia would end up a prop last season. I still think he's a backrow at the moment tho.

He's added few yards of pace to his game this year and is much faster than I thought he was.

Sia has had very good season.