Re: Brown n out?? : Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:09 pm  

I'm c**pping myself TBH with comments like this being reported:

"It certainly wasn't my idea to freshen things up," he told the post-match news conference. "Basically, the players weren't happy with how we were attacking. They were desperate to change.

"Last week we obviously had an issue with effort. There were some underlying issues and one was that the players didn't want to play our attacking structure any more.

"It was pointless going out and attacking like that because we would have got a poor effort again.
"So we had to try and change it within a week for a Challenge Cup semi-final, which was never going to be easy.

"It's not ideal for anyone but they were more keen to go back to a traditional seven-and-six style of football."

Are we going to be playing with one half back? What the hell is is he on (about)?
Player power?

I think he has lost the plot and hope he gets it back before he comes to us.

Re: Brown n out?? : Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:16 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Are we going to be playing with one half back? What the hell is is he on (about)?

He is a well known tinkerer. The Hudds fans have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons.

I've been concerned about the Brown appointment ever since it was announced. I'm still concerned.

Re: Brown n out?? : Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:49 pm  

Hope you get him early.
Two years ago I thought he was excellent - and moved us forward as a team. The last two years have been a mixture of tinkering , playing players out of position , and continual unrest behind the scenes.
You are welcome to him now , but think you are a better club than he is a coach to be honest.
Still he keeps being a fan interesting...
Enjoy.

Re: Brown n out?? : Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:01 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Another pretty poor shudds performance , out of the cup and in free fall in the league will be get the boot?? If he does he could spend the rest of the season working on recruitment and planning for us next year , anyone think he could take up a more official capacity at the club this year ?

I like saints. Great club. I wouldn't wish you harm but the sooner you take NB from us the better (for the giants)

NB is a terrific assistant coach. Get him out there for the crack with the lads and improving them technically. Great. But leading a team and winning the big games.....can't do it.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:05 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I've only been an active fan of the sport since 2007 as I've said on here before (watched it loads on the TV since being a nipper thanks to family who have been avid Saints supporters for donkeys years). I'm wondering, has rugby league always been this melodramatic?

There've always been dramas but they are amplified tremendously by the media at the disposal of every fan these days - Twitter, Facebook, messageboards, comments on online newspapers - and rumours and conjecture spread infinitely more quickly than they did in, say, the '80s and '90s.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:55 am  

Agree with many concerns about Nathan Brown, great assistant, little like Brian Mac at Leeds, but then he has some top players who can raise their game at times.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:04 am  

Brown is a tinkerer at Huddersfield because he's got less quality options that we have. As long as he doesn't decide that Wilkin is our organiser I'll be okay.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:06 am  

looks fairly clear to me what is going on. Brown and Paul Anderson will have different philosophies and outlooks on the game/tactics etc...the players will be more keen to impress Anderson than Brown - after all he is their coach next year. Therefore they all start to listen to Anderson and follow his advice, and ignoring Brown's coaching.

Will always be a recipe for disaster for the new coach to be in position as an assistant to an incumbent coach.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:40 am  

Lest we forget. Hudds were top of Super League when Brown agreed to come to the Red Vee. It is since then that things have started to go wrong. Announcing he was leaving mid season was always going to cause problems, especially when everyone knew it was to another SL club. For example, it was different when DA left Saints as he was going elsewhere.

Its almost like him saying "I am going to Saints as they afford me better chances of success".

If he tinkers with the Saints lets hope it's at FB and one of the wings. The possibilities are endless: Meil to Prop? Roby to Scrum Half? Lance full time hooker? Lomax to 6?

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:09 pm  

McClennan wrote:

Brown is a tinkerer at Huddersfield because he's got less quality options that we have. As long as he doesn't decide that Wilkin is our organiser I'll be okay.

But as the quality of the squad has been improved from 2009 he has tinkered more and more. He tinkered very little in 2009 (our best year under Brown) More quality players has meant more combinations and permutations to tinker with. And boy does he like to tinker.

Afer a loss to salford at magic weekend he moved full back to wing, wing to full back, second row to centre, centre to loose forward and right wing to left centre. Result...lose to Widnes.

Did getting the Saints job force him to do this? No. Its in his character.