Re: 19 for HKR : Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:57 pm  

1984saints wrote:

He dropped one which was foster meli and wheeler was the other two that side gaskell play right with shenton and makinson If I can remember a coach should as well

Sorry, I misread your post, I thought you said Gaskell played right with Foster and Wheeler played left with Meli.

Re: 19 for HKR : Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:13 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Sorry, I misread your post, I thought you said Gaskell played right with Foster and Wheeler played left with Meli.

It's ok most probably the way I put it

Re: 19 for HKR : Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:33 pm  

1984saints wrote:

But what made me laugh was he said gaskell defended bad on the left hand side when I thought gaskell played was one of the better player that game and he played on the right side which anyone who watches the game back we see gaskell got dropped because him and rush dont get on and the only reason he getting 10 minutes here and there is because his agent kick up a fuss

Gaskell did indeed defend on the right, alongside Shenton and Makinson. After a scratchy start when he first played at first team level last season he became very good in defence.

I agree that there is no justifiable reason for him to have been dropped and the naff comment Rush recently made about Gaskell 'learning his trade' in the u20s still gets me annoyed. As if a player who has competed in a Grand Final having helped the team get to it in the first place can learn anything from playing in the u20s! To suggest that is an insult to Gaskell and to the fans he thinks he is fooling.

Re: 19 for HKR : Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:40 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Gaskell did indeed defend on the right, alongside Shenton and Makinson. After a scratchy start when he first played at first team level last season he became very good in defence.

I agree that there is no justifiable reason for him to have been dropped and the naff comment Rush recently made about Gaskell 'learning his trade' in the u20s still gets me annoyed. As if a player who has competed in a Grand Final having helped the team get to it in the first place can learn anything from playing in the u20s! To suggest that is an insult to Gaskell and to the fans he thinks he is fooling.

Rush says what he thinks the fans want to hear and most of the team he is full of crap and he will never fool me there is some ill feeling between him and gaskell

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:48 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Probably same again except Gaskell out Perry in.

Going on last week, I'd bring Perry in to the team for Flanders.
Against Salford they only used him for 15 minutes at the beginning and a short period at the end - he's not exactly an impact player, though, more and honest toiler. If you're not going to let him take the workload, then I don't think you'll get the best from him.

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

As if a player who has competed in a Grand Final having helped the team get to it in the first place can learn anything from playing in the u20s!

Completely disagree with that, particularly for a half back.

that is not to say I don't agree Gaskell should be playing in the first team, but young halves are constamntly learning, even in the 20s. He may be being asked to work on certain aspects of his game under less pressure.

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:11 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Completely disagree with that, particularly for a half back.

that is not to say I don't agree Gaskell should be playing in the first team, but young halves are constamntly learning, even in the 20s. He may be being asked to work on certain aspects of his game under less pressure.

So why as the club won't let him go Widnes or Salford in loan I no for a fact both have approach saints

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:04 am  

They probably think (wrongly in my opinion) that there's nothing to learn at Widnes or Salford which he can't learn at Saints.

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:10 am  

1984saints wrote:

So why as the club won't let him go Widnes or Salford in loan I no for a fact both have approach saints

Because he's in our plans for this year, given he's making the 17 at Saints recently?

Re: 19 for HKR : Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:12 am  

I watched him closely during the warm up for the Bradford game (in which he didn't feature) and he seemed in very high spirits. Read into that what you will.