Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 5:48 pm  

Both the team and the coaching set up needs tearing down and rebuilding. We've coasted on the DA years too long now. This is sh*t.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 5:51 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Both the team and the coaching set up needs tearing down and rebuilding. We've coasted on the DA years too long now. This is sh*t.

Utter drivvel. I've stopped watching. It's generally been a great Magic weekend. I don't want to watch our abject humiliation at the hands of Wigan even if our players do.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 5:53 pm  

No doubt we will be told that "we were not that far off" and that "we just made a couple of mistakes".

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 5:56 pm  

Dux wrote:

No doubt we will be told that "we were not that far off" and that "we just made a couple of mistakes".

Indeed. And the first mistake was to say that when the fans can see we are miles off them this season! Always better to be honest instead of giving out meaningless spin.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:05 pm  

Wellens has been one of our better players and has shown some passion and concern. He had every right to go to the ref to ask him to check for obstruction. Sia has made a few mistakes today and needs to come out with his better head on in the second half.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:07 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

Both the team and the coaching set up needs tearing down and rebuilding. We've coasted on the DA years too long now. This is sh*t.

Pretty much summed up in a few words.

We've had this coming, and some people (including some at the club) have clearly been living on adifferent planet. I predicited Wigan by 40+ to friends and got laughed at. It's plain to see how badly we are coached, we have played off Roby with no plan B for years now and Anderson was the one who started it. 4 drives and one identical move is simply not enough any more at this level.

Bring on Brown, things need shaking up. He have no organiser, no leader and very little pace. I'm sure these will be Brown's first task and he'll sort it.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:13 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Wellens has been one of our better players and has shown some passion and concern. He had every right to go to the ref to ask him to check for obstruction. Sia has made a few mistakes today and needs to come out with his better head on in the second half.

The whole team has made one fundamental mistake: not turning up.

They should be fined for offences against rugby league.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:43 pm  

Embarrassing. Being out-played by 11 players.

Saints are too soft, there's no aggression in the tackle. The line doesn't move up quickly and with menace like wi*an's does, just wait for the ball-carrier to build up a head of steam to get the upper hand in the collision. I'm lost as to why Hock decided to take his screw out because it's not like Saints had been digging at wi*an players.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:54 pm  

Hats off to LMS. He's really had a go. The only Saints player whose performance could be approached without a gasmask.

Re: Saints v Wigan KO:18:00 Manchester : Sun May 27, 2012 6:57 pm  

What we're seeing here is the fruits of a well drilled coaching set up. Wigan got it right with Maguire and his backroom team, and it is continuing now. Also benefits their youngsters greatly, who look leagues ahead of ours.

Sadly, we got Royce Simmons.