Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 4:29 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

A lot of Saints fans say that BECAUSE IT'S TRUE strangely enough. Get back in your box.

apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont

1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 4:35 pm  

dubairl wrote:

apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont

1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close

I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 4:43 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Do you know anything about coaching? Executing good structures goes a long way to winning a game the rest is made up from individual flair and the bounce of the ball. If Warrington had your structures they'd be top, if we had your structures we'd probably be top. The same can be said about Leeds. Wigan are a fantastically coached side and it shows, I'm not knocking Wigan at all, but a large reason to your success is your structures.

Of course it is. However our backline is 3 times better than yours and our pack is 2 times better than yours. We didn't even turn up and we mullered you.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 4:51 pm  

Famous wrote:

Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.

Now you've just embarrassed yourself!

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:00 pm  

I thought today that Wigan were solid in defence but on the whole pretty ordinary, and there for the taking by a genuine top class team.

Sadly Saints look at present like a side for whom its about finishing in the top 8 rather than top 3

We are desperately short of strike power in the three quarters, and despite the fact that Wello was in many respects one of our better players, i do think that at times such as today he is as much a hindrance to our attacking structure than anything else due to slowing down the entire move.

I regard Wigan as the best Wrestling team in the league. They slow teams down better than anyone. Tie that in with our game plan which involves running off Robys scoots, and we are going to come up short against Wigan time and time again. This will happen until we have the players to enable us to adopt a different more fluid style of attack involving the three quarters.
Other teams like Warrington, Huddersfield, Leeds and Catalan have far more balanced attack and can therefore cause Wigan all sorts of problems that Saints cant.
These other sides, with the possible exception of Huddersfield dont handle the wrestle situation anything like as well as Wigan as such we are capable of defeating them through our scoot and go gameplan.

For me we are only a couple of players and a good coach short of being a top class site.
The players we need are fast dangerous threequarters.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:02 pm  

WidnesExile wrote:

Now you've just embarrassed yourself!

Why unless his pack is on top he is useless. His all round game is very limited and he often makes Saints one dimensional. McIlorum has more of an all round game and is a better starting hooker imo. I am not saying that Roby wouldnt make Wigan's 17, he would, it would just be on the bench for his impact.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:10 pm  

dubairl wrote:

apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont

1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close

Wow, thanks for spending the time writing such a balanced post.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:19 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

Wow, thanks for spending the time writing such a balanced post.

All true though.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:23 pm  

Famous wrote:

All true though.

Yes, of course it is.

Re: Quarter Final Aftermath : Sat May 12, 2012 5:30 pm  

Famous wrote: I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting. dubairl wrote: apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont 1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close 2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley 3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre 4. carmont 4. shenton not even close 5. richards 5. meli not even close 6. finch 6. lance not even close 7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO! 8. mossop 8. perry not even close 9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established 10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott 11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic. 12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world. 13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close I believe the 'let's all booty lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745

Famous wrote: I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting. dubairl wrote: apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont 1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close 2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley 3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre 4. carmont 4. shenton not even close 5. richards 5. meli not even close 6. finch 6. lance not even close 7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO! 8. mossop 8. perry not even close 9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established 10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott 11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic. 12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world. 13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close I believe the 'let's all booty lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745